Hi Phil,

Received!

Thank you,
Sarah Tarrant
RFC Production Center

> On Oct 28, 2025, at 11:47 AM, Phillip Hunt <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Answers in line.
> 
> Phil
> [email protected]
> 
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2025, at 6:36 AM, Sarah Tarrant <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I've updated our files to version -15. 
>> 
>> We are still awaiting answers to the intake form -- so I've pasted them here 
>> for ease of access.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Sarah Tarrant
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>> ------
>> 1) As there may have been multiple updates made to the document during Last 
>> Call, 
>> please review the current version of the document: 
>> 
>> * Is the text in the Abstract still accurate?
>> * Are the Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments 
>> sections current?
> 
> <PH> Yes.
>> 
>> 
>> 2) Please share any style information that could help us with editing your 
>> document. For example:
>> 
>> * Is your document's format or its terminology based on another document? 
>> If so, please provide a pointer to that document (e.g., this document's 
>> terminology should match DNS terminology in RFC 9499).
>> * Is there a pattern of capitalization or formatting of terms? (e.g., field 
>> names 
>> should have initial capitalization; parameter names should be in double 
>> quotes; 
>> <tt/> should be used for token names; etc.)
> 
> <PH> In draft 15, most <tt/> values where swapped out for quotations to keep 
> the txt version of the draft clear.
> 
> The draft indicates where there is case-sensitivity for URNs, values, or 
> parameters.  
> 
> The draft builds on principles established in RFC7643, RFC7644, RFC8417.  
> 
> In particular, per RFC8417, events are not to be perceived as commands issued 
> by a publisher to a receiver.  Rather they are intended to be informative.  
> It is up to the receiver to decide how to use the
> information provided based on local context.  This is explained, but this 
> type of inversion of control may not be obvious enough to the reader.  In 
> this sense, with the exception of SCIM Asynchronous requests, SCIM Events are 
> just intended to be event type definitions only.
>> 
>> 
>> 3) Please review the entries in the References section carefully with 
>> the following in mind. Note that we will update as follows unless we 
>> hear otherwise at this time:
>> 
>> * References to obsoleted RFCs will be updated to point to the current 
>> RFC on the topic in accordance with Section 4.8.6 of RFC 7322 
>> (RFC Style Guide).
>> 
>> * References to I-Ds that have been replaced by another I-D will be 
>> updated to point to the replacement I-D.
>> 
>> * References to documents from other organizations that have been 
>> superseded will be updated to their superseding version.
>> 
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> 
> <PH> The draft should be current for references.  The idnits tool reports 
> only inconsequential line length issues on some figures.
>> 
>> 
>> 4) Is there any text that should be handled extra cautiously? For example, 
>> are 
>> there any sections that were contentious when the document was drafted? 
> 
> <PH> I don’t think there is anything left.  We ended up cutting out a section 
> on “signals” which was seen to be duplicative with Open Id Foundation Shared 
> Signals specs. I think we have any last remnants removed.   
>> 
>> 
>> 5) Is there anything else that the RPC should be aware of while editing this 
>> document? 
> 
> <PH> The appendix contains non-normative explanation about how various events 
> can be used to accomplish a couple forms of replication.  This is offered to 
> demonstrate events are used in practice in an
> inversion of control scenario.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 6) This document uses one or more of the following text styles. 
>> Are these elements used consistently?
>> 
>> * fixed width font (<tt/> or `)
>> * italics (<em/> or *)
>> * bold (<strong/> or **)
>> 
> <PH> These elements were avoided to keep the normative .txt version clearer. 
> Draft 15 removed all but one <tt/>, italics and bold are not used.
>> 
>> 7) This document contains sourcecode in Section 7.3: 
>> 
>> * Does the sourcecode validate?
>> * Some sourcecode types (e.g., YANG) require certain references and/or text 
>> in the Security Considerations section. Is this information correct?
>> * Is the sourcecode type indicated in the XML? 
> 
> <PH> I am not aware of any source code.  We just have JSON structures.  
> Section 7.3 is the IANA Events URI Sub-registry.
>> 
>> 
>> 8) This document contains SVG. What tool did you use to make the svg?
>> 
>> The RPC cannot update SVG diagrams, so please ensure that: 
>> 
>> * the SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output as closely as 
>> possible, and 
>> * the figures fit on the pages of the PDF output. 
> 
> <PH> AFAIK, the SVG diagrams have been removed or can be removed in favor of 
> the supplied ASCII art.
>> 
>> 
>> 9) Because this document updates RFCs 7643 and 7644, please review 
>> the reported errata and confirm whether they have been addressed in this 
>> document or are not relevant:
>> 
>> * RFC 7643 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc7643)
>> * RFC 7644 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc7644)
>> 
> <PH> I am in the process now. However these errata won’t be relevant because 
> SCIM Events represents new functionality.  The only intersection is SCIM 
> Events often represent SCIM create, update, patch, delete messages in SET 
> form.
> 
>> 10) Would you like to participate in the RPC Pilot Test for editing in 
>> kramdown-rfc?
>> If so, please let us know and provide a self-contained kramdown-rfc file. 
>> For more
>> information about this experiment, see:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
> <PH> The current drafts are not based on kramdown format so we should 
> probably stick with RFCXML.
> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 11:05 AM, Deb Cooley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> yell at me if you need me to do it (and send me the .xml file).  We are in 
>>> the I-D cutoff time.
>>> 
>>> Deb
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 11:33 AM Phillip Hunt <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Sarah, 
>>> 
>>> I can make the changes.  Just submit 15 as normal then?
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 7:13 AM, Sarah Tarrant <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>> 
>>>> You are correct about the <tt> tags not having any effect on the .txt 
>>>> output. Perhaps using quotation marks in place of or in addition to the 
>>>> <tt> tags would help with the .txt output? That would also affect the 
>>>> .html and .pdf outputs, but then all outputs could be consistent.
>>>> 
>>>> If you do decide to make these changes, we suggest submitting a new 
>>>> version to the datatracker with those updates so that it is clear where 
>>>> that change originated.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Sarah Tarrant
>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 5:07 PM, Phillip Hunt <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sarah,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the note.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The biggest issue will be consistent use of <tt> for code values.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was finding it was causing confusion in the .txt version as there is no 
>>>>> font change, bolding, or quotations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the current recommendation? I can revise based on usage 
>>>>> recommendations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for errata, these are not part of the document and should be dealt 
>>>>> with separately.  Sorry I have not gotten around to it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 2:57 PM, Sarah Tarrant 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Author(s),
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> 1) As there may have been multiple updates made to the document during 
>>>>>> Last Call,
>>>>>> please review the current version of the document:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Is the text in the Abstract still accurate?
>>>>>> * Are the Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments
>>>>>> sections current?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2) Please share any style information that could help us with editing 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> document. For example:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Is your document's format or its terminology based on another document?
>>>>>> If so, please provide a pointer to that document (e.g., this document's
>>>>>> terminology should match DNS terminology in RFC 9499).
>>>>>> * Is there a pattern of capitalization or formatting of terms? (e.g., 
>>>>>> field names
>>>>>> should have initial capitalization; parameter names should be in double 
>>>>>> quotes;
>>>>>> <tt/> should be used for token names; etc.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3) Please review the entries in the References section carefully with
>>>>>> the following in mind. Note that we will update as follows unless we
>>>>>> hear otherwise at this time:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * References to obsoleted RFCs will be updated to point to the current
>>>>>> RFC on the topic in accordance with Section 4.8.6 of RFC 7322
>>>>>> (RFC Style Guide).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * References to I-Ds that have been replaced by another I-D will be
>>>>>> updated to point to the replacement I-D.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * References to documents from other organizations that have been
>>>>>> superseded will be updated to their superseding version.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note: To check for outdated RFC and I-D references, you can use
>>>>>> idnits <https://author-tools.ietf.org/idnits>. You can also help the
>>>>>> IETF Tools Team by testing idnits3 
>>>>>> <https://author-tools.ietf.org/idnits3/>
>>>>>> with your document and reporting any issues to them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4) Is there any text that should be handled extra cautiously? For 
>>>>>> example, are
>>>>>> there any sections that were contentious when the document was drafted?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 5) Is there anything else that the RPC should be aware of while editing 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> document?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 6) This document uses one or more of the following text styles.
>>>>>> Are these elements used consistently?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * fixed width font (<tt/> or `)
>>>>>> * italics (<em/> or *)
>>>>>> * bold (<strong/> or **)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 7) This document contains sourcecode in Section 7.3:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Does the sourcecode validate?
>>>>>> * Some sourcecode types (e.g., YANG) require certain references and/or 
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> in the Security Considerations section. Is this information correct?
>>>>>> * Is the sourcecode type indicated in the XML?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 8) This document contains SVG. What tool did you use to make the svg?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The RPC cannot update SVG diagrams, so please ensure that:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * the SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output as closely 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> possible, and
>>>>>> * the figures fit on the pages of the PDF output.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 9) Because this document updates RFCs 7643 and 7644, please review
>>>>>> the reported errata and confirm whether they have been addressed in this
>>>>>> document or are not relevant:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * RFC 7643 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc7643)
>>>>>> * RFC 7644 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc7644)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 10) Would you like to participate in the RPC Pilot Test for editing in 
>>>>>> kramdown-rfc?
>>>>>> If so, please let us know and provide a self-contained kramdown-rfc 
>>>>>> file. For more
>>>>>> information about this experiment, see:
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 4:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Author(s),
>>>>>>> 
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