Hi Carsten,

Thank you for making the updates and providing a self-contained markdown file.

It appears that we are unable to generate the RFCXML from the markdown file. We 
haven't been able to identify the reason, but perhaps you are running a 
not-yet-deployed version of kramdown-rfc?

Could you provide a self-contained markdown file that parses with the most 
current version of kramdown-rfc?

Thank you,
Sarah Tarrant
RFC Production Center 

> On Nov 21, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Carsten Bormann <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> I have submitted a -30 with the two changes mentioned.
> (You cannot see the fix of the sourcecode type in the plaintext rendition, so 
> you will only see the address change in a plaintext diff.)
> 
>> On 2025-11-21, at 16:54, Sarah Tarrant <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Carsten,
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply! And I'm sorry to hear about the fever :(
>> 
>> I have some followup questions/comments:
>> 
>> a) Regarding:
>>>> * If you need/want to make updates to your document, we encourage you to 
>>>> make those 
>>>> changes and resubmit to the Datatracker. This allows for the easy creation 
>>>> of diffs, 
>>>> which facilitates review by interested parties (e.g., authors, ADs, doc 
>>>> shepherds).
>>> 
>>> We have submitted a -29 in response to the IANA registrations, which needed 
>>> a task done (integrate newest URI-Scheme registrations) as well as follow a 
>>> new clarification in RFC 9876 for content-format registrations.
>>> The IANA work now seems to be complete.
>>> 
>>> We could roll up the changes (author’s address, fixing “coap-diag") 
>>> mentioned below in a -30, if that helps.
>>> 
>>> We will write a separate response on the validation of the sourcecode 
>>> elements; if there are any surprise changes they probably can be 
>>> independently integrated.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, please incorporate these into that version -30. That way it's clear 
>> where the change originated.
> 
> There was no change necessary after validating the examples, so they are 
> unchanged (with the sourcecode type fix) in -30.
> 
>> b) Regarding:
>>>> * Are the Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments 
>>>> sections current?
>>> 
>>> The author’s address for Henk Birkholz needs this change:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> [email protected]
>>> NEW:
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Sorry for missing this in -29.
>> 
>> 
>> Could you add this to version -30?
> 
> Done.
> 
>> c) Regarding:
>>>> * Is the sourcecode type indicated in the XML? (See information about 
>>>> sourcecode types.)
>>> 
>>> Yes, with one mistake
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> ~~~ coap-diag
>>> NEW:
>>> ~~~ cbor-diag
>>> 
>>> There is no sourcecode-type coap-diag
>>> (Amazingly, this mistake lingered for some four years.)
>> 
>> 
>> Good catch! Could you also add this to the version -30?
> 
> Done.
> 
>> d) Regarding:
>>>> The RPC cannot update SVG diagrams, so please ensure that: 
>>>> 
>>>> * the SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output, and 
>>>> * the figures fit on the pages of the PDF output. 
>>> 
>>> Which PDF output?
>> 
>> 
>> If you made a PDF, you could see if there were a difference. Feel free to 
>> disregard at this time, but this might be an additional question in AUTH48 
>> if we notice differences in the PDF / TXT / HTML outputs (e.g., asterisks 
>> appearing as large black circles that obscure the diagram).
> 
> Right.  So I made a PDF and skimmed it.
> As I mentioned, the height attributes of the SVG in Figure 1 may need some 
> tweaking.
> 
> (I think doing the intake based on datatracker-generated PDFs or the lack of 
> such is going to be a recurring problem; it would be better to have a 
> RFC-style PDF available at the time of intake.
> With the awareness of everyone, not a problem here.)
> 
>> e) Regarding:
>>>> If so, please let us know and provide a self-contained kramdown-rfc file.
>>> 
>>> You can extract the markdown source (with the includes performed) from a 
>>> RFCXML directly submitted as such in the following way:
>>> 
>>> kramdown-rfc-extract-markdown draft-ietf-core-href-29.xml > 
>>> draft-ietf-core-href-29.md
>>> 
>>> I have attached a markdown file extracted this way.
>>> (This is different from the markdown file in the WG repository [1] because 
>>> that does not have the includes performed, so additional files are needed 
>>> to compose a complete input.)
>>> 
>>> [1]: https://github.com/core-wg/href
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, we do need a self-contained markdown file with the additional 
>> files included. But since there appears to be a need for a version -30, 
>> please send the -30 markdown instead. So no need for a -29 markdown.
> 
> Self-contained markdown with all files included for -30 is attached.
> 
>> f) Regarding:
>>>> 12) Would you like to participate in the RPC Pilot Test for completing 
>>>> AUTH48 in 
>>>> GitHub? If so, please let us know. For more information about this 
>>>> experiment, 
>>>> see:
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=rpc-github-phase-0-pilot-test.
>>> 
>>> I wonder how this combines with 11, but using individual, separate pull 
>>> requests would very much fit our style of working.
>> 
>> Yes! We're hoping to build a process that fits authors' working styles!
> 
> Looking forward to it!
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
>> Just for clarity, I'm going to leave this draft in AUTh state until I get 
>> notification about the version -30 and subsequently get AD approval.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Sarah Tarrant
>> RFC Production Center
>> […]
> 
> <draft-ietf-core-href-30.md>

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