Since this -rfc8447bis is in AUTH48 too can we do the following throughout:

s/RFC8447/RFC9847

Not sure where -rfc8446bis is in the process but can we also change that ref?

spt

> On Dec 2, 2025, at 09:58, Madison Church <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Authors,
> 
> This is a friendly weekly reminder that we await answers to the followup 
> questions/comments below and your review of the document before continuing 
> with the publication process. For details of the AUTH48 process in 
> kramdown-rfc (including the two-part approval process), see: 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Madison Church
> RFC Production Center
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2025, at 8:34 AM, Madison Church <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply! We have updated the document as requested and have 
>> two followup items for your review, which can be viewed in the AUTH48 thread 
>> below or in the updated markdown file marked with "rfced". 
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2025, at 10:33 PM, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Update: I fixed my affiliation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 8:23 PM Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Thank you. I am editing this in GitHub. I merged in your proposed changes 
>>> except
>>> for those I think are inadvisable, which I reverted. I answered your 
>>> questions inline.
>>> 
>>> You can find the latest markdown file here (also attached):
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/refs/heads/auth48/rfc9849.md
>>> 
>>> -Ekr
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 10:53 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Authors,
>>> 
>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
>>> the following questions, which are also in the source file.
>>> 
>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] References
>>> 
>>> a) Regarding [WHATWG-IPV4], this reference's date is May 2021. 
>>> The URL provided resolves to a page with "Last Updated 12 May 2025".
>>> 
>>> Note that WHATWG provides "commit snapshots" of their living standards and
>>> there are several commit snapshots from May 2021 with the latest being from 
>>> 20
>>> May 2021. For example: 20 May 2021
>>> (https://url.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/1b8b8c55eb4bed9f139c9a439fb1c1bf5566b619/#concept-ipv4-parser)
>>> 
>>> We recommend updating this reference to the most current version of the 
>>> WHATWG
>>> Living Standard, replacing the URL with the more general URL to the standard
>>> (https://url.spec.whatwg.org/), and adding a "commit snapshot" URL to the
>>> reference. 
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>> [WHATWG-IPV4]
>>>          WHATWG, "URL - IPv4 Parser", WHATWG Living Standard, May
>>>           2021, <https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser>.
>>> 
>>> EKR: Per MT, WHATWG has asked us not to do that. We should leave
>>> this as-is and change the date to December 2025.
>> 
>> 1) For context, we reached out to WHATWG in September about a format for 
>> references to their standards (see: 
>> https://github.com/whatwg/meta/issues/363). The proposed update below for 
>> this reference reflects the approved format. It would be helpful for the RPC 
>> to know what WHATWG has asked authors to not do so that we can reach out for 
>> clarification and update our recommended citation if necessary. With this in 
>> mind, let us know if any updates need to be made.
>> 
>> Perhaps:
>> [WHATWG-IPV4]
>>          WHATWG, "URL - IPv4 Parser", WHATWG Living Standard,
>>          <https://url.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-ipv4-parser>.
>> 
>>          Commit snapshot:
>>          
>> https://url.spec.whatwg.org/commit-snapshots/1b8b8c55eb4bed9f139c9a439fb1c1bf5566b619/#concept-ipv4-parser
>> 
>> Regarding the date, we don't recommend using a future date for a reference 
>> as it doesn't reflect the date for a currently published work (unless there 
>> is an anticipated update to the WHATWG specification in December 2025). 
>> 
>>> d) FYI, RFCYYY1 (draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech) will be updated during the XML 
>>> stage.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following terms use fixed-width font
>>> inconsistently. Please review these terms and let us know how we should 
>>> update
>>> or if there are any specific patterns that should be followed (e.g.,
>>> fixed-width font used for field names, variants, etc.).
>>> 
>>> accept_confirmation
>>> cipher_suite
>>> ClientHello
>>> ClientHelloInner
>>> ClientHelloOuter
>>> ClientHelloOuterAAD
>>> config_id
>>> ECHClientHello
>>> ECHConfig
>>> ECHConfig.contents.public_name
>>> ECHConfigContents
>>> ECHConfigList
>>> EncodedClientHelloInner
>>> inner
>>> maximum_name_length
>>> outer
>>> payload
>>> public_key
>>> ServerHello.random
>>> zeros
>>> —>
>>> 
>>> EKR: Thanks. Fixed width should be used for field names and other PDUs.
>>> 
>>> I notice that some of these are regular words (zeros) so you have to 
>>> determine from context whether it's referring to some protocol element or 
>>> just to the concept "carries an encrypted payload" versus "the payload 
>>> field". Do you want to take a cut at changing as many of these as make 
>>> sense and then I can review, or would you prefer I make the changes?
>>> One question is what to do in definition lists. My sense is that the list 
>>> heds should be non-fixed-width but maybe you have a convention.
>> 
>> 2) Thank you for offering to make changes. Please feel free to attach an 
>> updated markdown file containing the changes for terms using fixed-width 
>> font.
>> 
>> For definition lists, we typically leave this up to the authors to determine 
>> how they would like the terms to appear for consistency. For an example of 
>> terms in a definition list using a fixed-width font, see: 
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9623.html#section-5.1.1.
>> 
>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.xml
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849.md
>> 
>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>> 
>> Markdown diffs:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-rfcdiff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9849-md-auth48rfcdiff.html
>> 
>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: 
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9849.
>> 
>> We will await approvals from each author prior to moving forward with 
>> formatting updates. For details of the AUTH48 process in kramdown-rfc 
>> (including the two-part approval process), see: 
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc. 
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Madison Church
>> RFC Production Center
> 

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