[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Gooch)  wrote on 10.03.02 in 
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> It was my understanding that some or all of these free services had
> problems. I saw Matti warning people about "poison" databases which
> give false positives (such as replying with "This service is no longer
> available, stop using it", rather than silently ignoring DNS lookups).

It is my understanding that this was only true for the most infamours,  
something run from New Zealand and known as ORBS (was that orbs.org?),  
which was in trouble fairly often for scanning IP ranges, and involving  
personal politics, and (last I heard) not taking unwilling secondary NS  
servers out of their DNS records (which led to the "poison" thing as an  
attempt to enforce changing those DNS records).

I haven't looked at everyone in the list I gave, but several seem to have  
spent some effort telling their users that they won't do this stuff. But  
look for yourself.

And several of them offer for-pay services as well, in an effort (one  
assumes) to pay the bills.

> service attack on subscriber's incoming email. I realise why someone
> who has made a service available will want to force people to stop
> using it (even failed DNS lookups cost bandwidth) when they find they
> bit off more than they can chew. But fucking people's email is not the
> answer.

Cooperation with whoever runs the service is essential. That, IIRC, was  
missing in the case in question.

MfG Kai

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