On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, William H. Taber wrote:

> Ram Pai wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 11:19, William H. Taber wrote:
> > 
> >>Ian Kent wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Ram Pai wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The question is: Who is the culprit?  stubfs?  VFS? or
> >>>>            autofs4?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I'm happy to fix it in autofs unless you feel we need to address the wider 
> >>>issue.
> >>>
> >>>I'll put together a patch which takes account of this and pushes the 
> >>>hold/release down into try_to_fill_dentry. But I would like a little 
> >>>time to think about whether there may be other implications.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Ian,
> >>I don't think that you can fix this in the autofs by tinkering with 
> >>holding and releasing the parent i_sem.  The reason for this is that you 
> >>  don't have any way of knowing if you hold that lock or not.  The easy 
> >>case is that nobody holds the lock.  But if the lock is held you have no 
> >>way to know that you are the person holding the lock and you cannot 
> >>unlock someone elses lock without serious consequences.
> >>
> >>The only way to fix the lock handling is to fix the VFS.  This means 
> >>either changing all calls to the d_revalidate functions (or all calls to 
> >>d_revalidate itself) so that the parent i_sem is obtained first, or to 
> >>change lookup_one_len (or actually lookup_hash) to only get the lock 
> >>around the filesystem lookup call, matching what is done in real_lookup. 
> >>  I don't know which is better from a locking correctness perspective. 
> >>I would have to defer to the VFS experts on that one.  I do know that 
> >>lookup_one_len is called from about 40 places in kernel tree and 
> >>probably from every filesystem outside the tree as well.  Either way, it 
> >>is a non-trivial piece of work.
> >>
> >>If you take the inconsistant locking as a given, then the fix has to 
> >>involve not doing the d_add on the new dentry until after the mount 
> >>completes.  This would eliminate the need for revalidate to wait.  You 
> >>would have to provide a mechanism for keeping track of the outstanding 
> >>mount requests and looking for a a mount in progress before starting a 
> >>new request.  This would take the waiting out of revalidate and put it 
> >>into the lookup request itself where you are guaranteed that the parent 
> >>i_sem lock is held.
> > 
> > 
> > Even this has a issue I think. Because later when the automounter
> > attempts to mount, VFS wont' find the corresponding dentry in the dcache
> > and will allocate a new dentry. And this dentry is not the one which
> > autofs4 is waiting to be mounted on. No?
> > 
> > RP
> > 
> 
> That would be bad.  So maybe I should just wait for someone who 
> understands the automounter better than I do to come up with an idea.  :^)

FWIW I'll certainly be thinking about it.

Ian

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