Trent Lloyd wrote:
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 09:55:57PM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
Trent Lloyd wrote:
On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:07:31PM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
Lee Cullens wrote:
Avahi scope?
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P4 with Debian Etch (testing), kernel 2.6.12-1-686 (2.6.12-10), Gnome desktop
PMac G5 running OS X Tiger (10.4.3)
New to Linux and putting up a no doze Linux & Mac LAN
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I've installed netatalk on my Linux box, and now can access and move files into and out of a shared directory on the Linux box from my Mac. In order to discover the Mac and a printer on the Mac from the Linux box, I found instructions that included installing mdnsresponder and howl-tools on the Linux box. The Debian packages included mdnsresponder but not howl-tools which I understand isn't being maintained anymore. As I'm sure you already know, I instead found Avahi on Debian and that's not the 0.6.3 version. So in reading through the material for Avahi I see an item in the FAQ about not running multiple mDNS responders.

I'm not exactly sure, but it seems to me that if I use Avahi I should not also use mdnsresponder - i.e. that Avahi replaces the combination of mdnsresponder and howl-tools. Is this layman interpretation correct? If so, I guess my next step is to figure out just what I need of Avahi and try to build and install the latest 0.6.3 version, rather than the Debian 0.6.1 version that might have a problem?

Thank you,
Lee C

Never mind. I found where Avahi conflicts with mdnsresponder. The problem is that if I were to remove mdnsresponder and install Avahi then I would need dbus rather than dbus1 which would in turn wipe out at least the majority of my testing version Gnome desktop. It may be that such could be done with the unstable Gnome desktop, but I don't want move whole-hog to unstable because that would undoubtedly lead to more issues. Yet another catch-22 :-(
That has nothing to do with mdnsresponder.

Avahi requires dbus 0.3 or above, debian probably still has 0.2 in
testing and so you cannot install it without upgrading it, which can
only be done in i think unstable, maybe even experimental.

The conflicts with mdnsresponder are due to the need to listen on the
same port and that sort of thing.  Avahi can replace both mdnsresponder
and howl-utils (well, i dont know exactly of the utils in howl-utils,
but we have most usefull things, publish-service, etc) You can even make
use of the Bonjour or Howl API using programs using our compatability
layer.

Trent
Guess I didn't word it very well. I meant that "if I were to install Avahi as an alternative to mdnsresponder" I hit the dbus version issue and don't want to go whole-hog unstable (even if that is enough). Testing (Etch) is enough exposure for me, but I'll pull the occasional package from unstable if I think I really need it and there aren't too many consequences :-) I'm back to my research trying to find a way to "discover" my Mac and a printer on my Mac from my Debian Etch box. The Debian box has netatalk installed and from my Mac I can see it and share files.

I'm happy to see Avahi jumping into the void and look forward to it settling down in at least testing. There is a Avahi-client package in Debian testing, but I can't seem to figure out how to use it to discover my Mac :-(

Can you tlel me what version the DBUS package is?
It's quite possible avahi will work fine just the package from unstable
wont.

as for avahi, you could install avahi-daemon and avahi-utils and run
avahi-discover.

Trent

Thanks for the reply,
Lee C

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Keeping in mind that I have just looked at the Debian packages - not at compiling the latest from source if newer.

Avahi-daemon (0.6.3-3 unstable) requires dbus >= 0.6.0 and dbus 0.60-5 is in unstable. However, much of Gnome (1:2.10.2.5 testing) with Etch requires dbus-1 (0.23.4-8 testing) - i.e. selecting dbus will remove most of Gnome testing. I assume that also selecting Gnome unstable would bring it back, but I don't want to get that far into unstable :-) I've got enough issues with the exposure I have and really want to get back to my ObjC development projects.

Thanks,
Lee C

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