Sam, Please understand that I am *not* trying to be difficult. I am simply trying to understand how the ASF Bylaws, which are a legal document of the Corporation, impact this process.
> The board appoints officers. Officers are empowered to appoint members. > The appointment process is specified by the project's charter. >From ASF Bylaw 6.3: "In addition to the officers of the corporation, the Board of Directors may, by resolution, establish one or more Project Management Committees consisting of at least one officer of the corporation, who shall be designated chairman of such committee, and may include one or more other members of the corporation." Sorry, you are correct and I mis-read it initially. It isn't a ASF Board member, it is an ASF Officer, whom are listed here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/. The bylaws do state that the PMC Chairman SHALL be an Officer of the Corporation. But ASF Bylaw 6.1 does include: "and such other officers and assistant officers and agents as may be deemed necessary may be elected or appointed by the Board of Directors from time to time", so perhaps all that is necessary is for the Board to designate each PMC Chairman (e.g., Nicola) as an ASF Officer. >From ASF Bylaws 6.4: "The officers of the corporation and the members of each existing Project Management Committee shall be appointed by the Board of Directors or appointed by an officer empowered by the Board to make such appointment." So what you are saying is that the PMC Chairman is legally the Corporate Oficer who designates PMC members, but that as an internal process the designated Officer abides by whatever rules are established by the Community? > Nicola Ken is an ASF member. As are Berin and Stefano. Sorry. I was going by http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html, which shows only Stefano from that list. Apologies (and congratulations) to Nicola and Berin. > Independent of prior charters that may have been approved, I > intend to review future charters with an eye for (1) effectively > demonstrating oversight and (2) adherance to the "collaborative, > consensus based development process" that is supposed to characterize > all Apache projects. Excellent! :-) Do you have a prototype that people can use to start? --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>