> > To fit more in with the Jakarta style we need a new pretty word header. > > What do you think about > > Don't take it personal, but I think it's a step back from what we already > have. I agree with Berin here. (...) If a redesign of the logo is neccessary/wanted, I suggest getting a simple toon-like icon ala Tomcat/SuSE/Enhydra/Linux/etc. Does not have to be an animal, though =) (...) The current blocks in the 'A' are nice for those that understand, but mean nothing (probably) to new users. I'm guessing that there are a lot of people out there who have no idea what avalon is (in mythical context, I mean), so a logo pointing at that would not help either. (...) The key terms regarding avalon are "server" and "framework". Building an image around "framework" probably results in horrible things. Server, though, might be nice. A possibility would be a butler named Avalon serving up a computer.... (...) Anyway, I definately do not think moving from the current logo to an even less graphical/iconic form would be a smart move. (...) greetz, LSD, who's going back to bed (flu :-( PS: - a shield with a big A on it, together with a spear sporting a banner that says "Avalon"? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]