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From: "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: jmx (RE: showcasing Avalon)
> > I was actually thinking about doing that for cocoon but have been
> > too lazy.
> > It could be good to do if someone was willing to do the work ... ;)
>
> not me, not me! :)
>
> I'm 70% through the JMX spec. This sounds like a very interesting
> project to tackle. I think I'm going to give it a try; coding to
> start somewhere next week.
Some time back, I had hit the problem of JMX and avalon. A different Avalon
Kernel was created and JMX based MBean Server. For me the refactoring was
more important than the JMX issues. But writing a limited JMX Dynamic MBean
based server seemed to be easiest to do.
>
> So, what are the ideas on it so far? Specifically:
>
> - would there be any (license) problems using the RI (the com.sun.*
> classes)?
I think it is a high gain and low pain path. Could be good for protoyping
and building on, and then move migrate to something without license baggage.
> - has anyone thought about how phoenix/jmx should be integrated (I
> myself see the possibility of simply making the jmx server a
> component, but that may lead to loop dependencies)?
> - has anyone thought about how Avalon's Service relates to an MBean?
> (should Service extend MBean?)
I think it should be part of Kernel. Avalon has changed a lot in the last
few months. My earlier work on this was based on taking Avalon B1 (I think),
making each service, an avalon block and derive from a default
implementation that contained reflection code to implement a default Dynamic
MBean. This was pretty painless.
Notification facilities were not implemented.
> - does anyone know of open source use of jmx besides jboss, enhydra and
> the reference implementation?
Enhydra seems to have a lot of good stuff. They have SNMP, and WBEM(I think
this is for paying customers only) implemetation. Their JMX inplementation
is less tainted than sun.
> - any company out there wishing to pay for my phone bill for time
> invested in Avalon (I may have to switch to water & bread soon)?
> (okay so maybe it's off-topic....)
I think Avalon is great. It just needs to get into stabilization phase and
brand building phase. I think individuals in different companies would get
it. My fear is that Avalon could get too complicated.
Harmeet
>
> g'night,
>
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