Paul Hammant wrote:
>
> Berin : Do you want me to email you the subject of this thread? If yes, just since
>Saturday?
Please. Since Saturday should be fine.
>
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>
> > >GPL is completely insane for toolkits, services and APIs. Its only
> > patronised by people that are
> > >new to the "cause" of open source, or those too proud to admin they have
> > made the wrong choice of
> > >open source license (the second half of that is paraphrasing your comments
> > Peter (entirely valid)
> > >during the spat with the JBoss people late last year).
> >
> > You have to realize that when the GPL was born there was a very good reason
> > for making the choices it made. I agree 100% with those decisions at that
> > time. GPL serves the users at the expense of developers. In current times
> > there is still some reasons to use GPL. Mainly if a company does not want
> > to release code only to have market-savy competitiors repackage and resell it.
>
> That's a good point - release as GPL to open it, but stifle commercial competitors
>use. A spolier
> of sorts.
>
> > The other reason a lot of new comers use GPL is because of advertising
> > (they believe GPL==opensource) and they don't really understand
> > implications and actually believe some of the rhetoric spouted by 'anarhy r
> > us' type peeps.
>
> That's what I meant by "new to the cause". You put it better though.
>
> [ Avalon == ApacheOS (phase 1) ]
>
> > It is definetly something I have played with as an idea. One of the main
> > reasons I ended up getting involved with Ant was to play with idea of an
> > ant init system (first process in *nix systems) and also to rebuild my
> > cron/job/at server. I am also involved with Isolate JSR (basically fork for
> > java) which should be a step in right direction.
>
> Can we go down the gap route? i.e. where does Avalon on top of J2SE on top of host
>OS (or BIOS or
> other) not fill the requisites for OS definition.
>
> Incidentally, Peter, you're spot on for pushing Ant down the Avalon road (as long as
>it remains
> multimodal).
>
> Regards,
>
> - Paul H
>
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