Peter Donald wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> At 09:18 AM 6/11/01 -0400, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >I think we need to change our headers to be fully ASF license compliant.
> >We coppied what Cocoon did, and it turns out not to be the fully legal
> >way of doing the headers.
>
> It would be best to verify this information first. Including the full
> license or license "pointer" is equally enforcable under the law. From a
> legal POV there is virtually no difference, neither is more or less "legal"
> or "illegal".
>
> However using the short form could violate apache policy. I seem to recall
> Jon brought this up once on one of the general/committers/other lists once.
> I was about to change all the licenses on Avalon then. However Brian
> Behlendorf (sp?) replied and said that there was nada difference. I am not
> sure if an edict was created post that stage but it seems unlikely.
>
> I would prefer to keep current format (interferes less with my coding)
> unless we have to change. If you are really concerned I guess you could
> email one of foundation peeps or perhaps [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something
> similar.
Well it was a serious problem because the LICENSE file was missing from CVS!
I would like to make sure what Apache policy is. I think it is better to
follow suit on stuff like this. And I do agree with the statement that
legal stuff sucks ("What the large print giveth, the small print taketh
away").
>
> >-------- Original Message --------
> >Subject: RE: Using the Apache Licence
> >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:13:14 +0200
> >From: "Michel Lehon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just saw this message hop through Tomcat-Dev...
> >A quick look at the brand new Beta 1 of Cocoon2 show lots of files with this
> >"short" "illegal" license.
> >These might be the "souvenir" of Pier :).
> >
> >Michel.
> >
> >PS: I did not check anything besides C2.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Friday, 08 June, 2001 23:21
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: Using the Apache Licence
> >>
> >>
> >> on 6/8/01 10:56 AM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > You're on the licensing list, and know better than me, but I remember
> >> > committing something with headers like
> >> >
> >> > /***********************************************************************
> >> > * (C) xxxx,xxxx The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. *
> >> > * ------------------------------------------------------------------- *
> >> > * This software is distributed under the terms of the Apache Software *
> >> > * License version x.x a copy of which can be found in the LICENSE.txt *
> >> > * file included in this distribution. *
> >> > ***********************************************************************/
> >> >
> >> > Should I go back and change it?
> >> >
> >> > Pier
> >>
> >> Yes. That license is not legally approved, it is something you made up.
> >>
> >> If it was legally approved, you would have seen it available on
> >> the Jakarta
> >> website or on the main Apache.org site.
> >>
> >> Legal stuff sucks.
> >>
> >> -jon
> >>
> >> --
> >> "Open source is not available to commercial companies."
> >> -Steve Balmer, CEO Microsoft
> >> <http://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html>
> >>
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> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
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