> I added some dimension to it with bump mapping and shadows.

It needs fine-tuning, but otherwise it looks much better (on screen)

> Is there any way we can get our Avalon graphics in a SVG format so that
> we can generate PDF documentation with graphics that actually look pretty?
> GIFs don't tend to scale very well.

Well, I made 'em in vector format in CorelDRAW 9, so that should be a
matter of saving as SVG. Can also provide Adobe Illustrator or PDF format
if you want them?

> Also, while I appreciate the hard work that went into our logos, I think
> I can offer a couple of suggestions that would make them even better.

> The first thing you notice is the stark shallow-chromatic-ness of
> the logo.
> In other words, it looks as if it were designed solely for
> monochrome printers.

It was designed to print well. Shading/shadow 'degrades' poorly.

> This is in distinct contrast to the previous logo that we had.
> It was nice
> looking, colorful, and it printed well.

Yup. I think that one was a bit too colorful though =) It didn't
print as good as the new one on my B/W DJ...

> I think that with the subtle use of shadows we can achieve this
> again--still
> using our current design.  Check out the logos of some of the
> other Jakarta
> packages (I enclosed what I think are the best of the crop).  All of them
> have a certain level of dimension.  Whether the dimension is created by
> color variations (i.e. tomcat), or by shadows (i.e. jetspeed)
> they all lend
> a visual interest that our logo doesn't grab.

agreed. Of the lot, I definately like the james logo best. The log4j
one is beautiful but impractical.

> I guess I am jumping on this bandwagon now that I am in publication mode,
> and I want our project to be well presented.

don't we all?

I'm attaching a PDF version of the logo. I'd really like to see the 'source'
logo stay in a completely vector format. I'll download SVG export capability
and send you that. Export from CDR to AI seems a bit lossy. I'll fiddle with
it a bit tomorrow.

cheers!

Leo



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