Jeff,

At the risk of sounding disloyal to an Avalon using project and my 
Avalon touting frineds (Cocoon and Cocooners), I am inclined to agree...

- Paul

>Proposal:
>
>1. We adopt Anakia for Excalibur and other no-PDF-required projects.
>2. Everyone who feels that the Cocoon-based system is nonetheless cool
>and will kick butt in the long term, go along to to Nicola Ken's
>Krysalis project (used in Jakarta POI, xml-forrest), and let's get it to
>a state where it's usable in Avalon.
>
>http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/index.html
>
>--Jeff
>
>
>On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 01:04:38PM +1100, Peter Donald wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I just went to redo the excalibur projects documentation and found that it is 
>>extremely complex to setup and use. You have to go download a 14MB file and 
>>do all sorts of munging to get things working and it is in no way shape or 
>>easy. Even then it spits out mountains of debug and warnings about things 
>>that I am not using etc.
>>
>>Compare this to Anakia
>>
>><taskdef name="anakia" classname="org.apache.velocity.anakia.AnakiaTask"/>
>>
>><anakia basedir="${xdocs.src}" destdir="${docs.dir}/"
>>        extension=".html" 
>>        style="./site.vsl"
>>        projectFile="stylesheets/project.xml"
>>        includes="**/*.xml"
>>        lastModifiedCheck="true"
>>        templatePath="my/path/stylesheets" >
>></anakia>
>>
>>I would so love an equivelent simplified "cocoonia" task or whatever. All I 
>>want is basically generate docs via XSLT (maybe multiple passes and maybe 
>>generating pdfs/images). 
>>
>>I don't think we can afford to rely on cocoon as is for the excalibur 
>>components due to the requirement to use jakarta-avalon CVS is too much. I 
>>also don't think we should subject our users to the angst caused by trying to 
>>get everything installed correctly from released versions.
>>
>>So recomendations? Is Cocoon considering such a task in the future and should 
>>I wait ? Should I just use XSLT sheets and leave it at that? Should I convert 
>>to using Anakia ?
>>
>>-- 
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>"The perfect way is only difficult for those who pick and choose.  Do not
>>like, do not dislike; all will then be clear.  Make a hairbreadth
>>difference and heaven and earth are set apart; if you want the truth to
>>stand clear before you, never be for or against." - Bruce Lee
>>
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