On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:16:41PM +0200, Leo Simons wrote: > > ls jakarta-avalon-excalibur > > ls jakarta-commons > > ls jakarta-commons-sandbox > > > > Eek! Look at all those suspiciously similar packages. io, cli, store, > > utils, configuration, database conn pool, threading, logging. I don't > > think we Excalibur developers should claim the moral high ground on the > > code duplication issue ;P > > the sole reason we still have excalibur and cornerstone is that the > commons project will not accept avalon-enabled components.
According to dependencies.txt, we've got 14 Excalibur subprojects independent of Avalon. Some reasons I think they're not in Commons: 1) Pete, Berin and other code authors (who usually do code maintenance) don't want to subscribe to another list with lots of unrelated-to-avalon chatter. 2) Commons "governance" is a bit whacked. Anyone can vote on components they know and care nothing about. Regularly, committers are expected to vote on things they know nothing about. 3) Some Avalon people have a severe conspiracy theory streak, and believe that anyone not "for" IoC and Avalon is either stupid, insane, or simply out to get us.. <twitch> ;) > I'd be happy if they would, we'd just migrate everything over to > commons, make all of avalon committers to commons, then start work on > integrating (taking the best pieces of the various implementations and > "avalonabling" all of it). > > The way I see it, Avalon Framework should be in very widespread use > across the Jakarta and XML projects. "should" is a word that sets off warning bells. Who's to judge what people should spend their free time doing? > The way we capture complex design issues in a small, solid framework > is not found in any of the other projects. > > Commons doesn't see it that way and feels any component that uses the > avalon framework interfaces as having an ugly dependency on some > external project. Not an ugly dependency, just *a* dependency. If it's got a dep on an external project, that rather limits it's reusability, defeating the point of it being in Commons. --Jeff > This is a shame. I will keep claiming that moral high ground tho! ;) > > cheers, > > - Leo > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
