> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > This would solve 90% of the problems I had with Avalon. > I had to create my container implementation because of this, > and it was > a real PITA.
> > BTW, I regard it as a requirement to be able to do this > without having > to create my complete version of the > container-componentmanager-whateverwecallit. Understood. The main challenge is what extensions do we support. I.E. Marcus had four phases of component use when Avalon only ever talks about 3 (init, active, destruction). > > >>* reference implementation for a session object. This is > how stateful > >> session beans (EJB spec) and servlets manage state in an otherwise > >> stateless environment. It is also how they can manage to > be used by > >> multiple threads or contexts of execution simultaneously. > We should > >> put together a reference implentation of this in > excalibur and then > >> vote whether it should be incorporated as part of Framework (at > >>least > >> the defining interfaces). > > > > > > which raises another question: should we have optional interfaces > > (ones a container doesn't really have to recognize) in framework or > > not? > > User speak: are they part of Avalon or not? ;-) > > As Paul and I have recently seen on the James list, there is big > confusion between Framework, Excalibur and Phoenix. > > One of the reasons is that many features of "Avalon" are not in > Framework but in Excalibur, Phoenix etc... +1 > > IMNSHO, we should structure ourselves like this: > > API > | > | ------ Utility classes > / \ > / | \ > Reference implementations > | | | | | | | > Applications tha work in the above > > > > IE: > > Framework > | > | ------ Excalibur > / \ > / | \ > Phoenix, Fortress, Merlin, Jesktop (yes, Jesktop) > | | | | | | | > Cornerstone, Phoenix Apps, Jesktop Apps > > > This would clear up some confusion for the users. > > Since we are talking about containers, I wanna commit my container > somewhere (since everyone has one, can't I? ;-) Don't you want to make what's there better, instead of splitting attention even further? > > Where shall I put it, in an Excalibur scratchpad? that would be the location, but excalibur is pretty crowded already. why not join forces w/ Fortress or Merlin? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
