I am back, and after only a week being on vacation I was greeted with 1287 emails. I take that back, that's 1287 + 1294 + 596 because that's all my email client would download at one time. Because of that, I am going to have to reduce the number of lists I am subscribed to. (Like Axis, I started to work with them, and never could get back).
Anyway,with a couple hundred emails in just Avalon-Dev the one project I am most interested in, there were a few topics that saw a lot of action. We have the "One Container" thread, and it's corrolary "Three Containers". I couldn't hope to keep up with everything (I have to work for a living as well). My spin: One spec, many containers. Just like J2EE. Coming up with a spec is not easy. However, we have to write what we know. The meta data stuff being written in Merlin is great, I like it. Fortress has a lot going for it, and I want to make it easier to work with (both to maintain and to use). If Marcus made his commit, it has an extensible lifecycle without too much introspection. So we have a foundation to work with other aspects of components such as persistence of configuration changes and the component's working set of data. Bottom line, each of the containers we have has a specific set of plusses and minusses. If you are planning a J2EE project, you don't just go out and buy a BEA server. At ~$16,000 per CPU licensing fees, it seems rediculous to buy one of those to only service 25 users. You have to size your server for your project. In Avalon, you have the concept of the embedded server and the stand-alone server. Anyway, I am still catching up, so if anyone can help me cut through the crap and get me up to speed with the current understanding, I would definitely appreciate it. "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>