On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 02:33, Peter Donald wrote: > Hi, > > Can people be a little more careful when updating the website. Someone has > gone and butchered it .... yet again. Have a look at > /avalon/excalibur/extension - not long ago it was working fine. If you are > not willing to do a proper job then please dont do anything at all.
:/ This is not just the breadcrumbs script; it is the general tigris skin as well. While the various pieces use the standards correctly, when you throw them in together they can break in various places. I sent out some screenshots earlier of the turbine site in netscape 4, and this seems to be the exact same problem. > Please dont update a website unless it is working and DONT break it for no > apparent reason. While I wasn't able to reproduce the problem in konqueror 3.0.0-12 (the one that comes with RH7.3), I did reproduce it using NS4. See screenshot. The only way to be relatively sure the tigris skin works (though not for NS4) is to not use javascripts at all. I therefore suggest that any project that uses that skin either moves away from it or does not use the breadcrumb script. > The stylesheets also seems to be fubarred. The background of the content > pane is sometimes grey, sometimes half-grey and sometimes got grey square > in left hand corner in IE5. > > So how long are we going to have to put up with this? until either one of: a) browser manufacturers all support standards and all browsers are no longer used or b) we use HTML 3.2 with JavaScript 1.1 and only minimal CSS (font properties, nothing more/less) or c) every time a small change is made to a skin the committer tests it in 11 different browsers, and apparantly a gazillion versions of those at that (as this particular problem occurs with konqueror 3.0.2 but not with 3.0.0-12) happens. I am supportive of either just expect (a) and do all-but-full standards-comformance like I did with the skin POI uses now, but in a way that allows 'lesser' browsers like NS4 to still be at least used, or of (b) like forrest does. Our current setup with our hack-of-maven-hack-of-tigris-with-most-ugly-css in the world is (c). It's not my choice, but I'll live with it. Just don't complain so loudly when something breaks every now and then. cheers, - Leo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>