> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Leo Sutic wrote:
> 
> >
> >>From: Paul Hammant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>
> >>Avalon Committers : I'd like a vote of confidence please.
> >>
> >
> >+100 for trying, mate.
> >
> >+1 for keeping on trying, but
> >
> >+0 for your chances of success.
> >
> >Mediation is only useful if the two sides want to get along. 
> So far it 
> >seems like Peter and Stephen are fine with making any compromise and 
> >that they are happy to include any Merlin/Phoenix feature - 
> as long as 
> >the end result is *exactly* like they intended it all along.
> >
> 
> Leo:
> 
> Let me point out to you a two or three facts of life:

...

> This isn't what I indended - it's better - a lot better!

Stephen,

I'm not about to get into an argument with you on this. This thread (and
its
predecessors) has been a time-sink since it started. The issue is not
your
achievements, Merlin speaks for itself, it is the
mailing-list/CVS/code-war 
that you and Peter have been at for a while now.

So let me just sum it up: Both you and Peter are convinced that you are 
right. You are both willing to compromise. But not enough for any type
of mediation, because you would have to give up some central notion
of your design. Thus deadlock. Thus any type of mediation is a total
and utter waste of time for everyone involved.

That is why I'm advocating an approach that does not require you and
Peter
to get along. It's not the most technically beautiful solution, but
given
the Jakarta we have, given the Avalon-dev we have, it may be the best
way.
It's an 80% solution that can be 100% implemented, as opposed to the
100%
solution that you will only ever be able to implement to 80% due to
friction between you and Peter.

> >All I want is no changes to Framework. As long as Avalon/Framework
> >has all contracts and all classes needed to write a container or a 
> >component, I'm fine.
> >
>
> +1

I guess we agree on something, then.

/LS


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