> > Could anybody familiar with the Wakesoft Architecture Server > > provide comments, opinions or flames regarding this framework? > > I'm particularly interested in comparisons between this thing > > and other frameworks, including Avalon. > > > > Just in case: http://www.wakesoft.com/ > > I wasn't able to get to the meat of this framework - I kept encountering > marketese, white papers, user reports, case studies ... arg!
Peter, thanks for taking the time to write that very enlightening reply! I'm asking about Wakesoft because in one of the projects I work for, a consultant who is usually well respected seems to be pretty excited about this framework; I fail to see its virtues, but before dismissing it I wanted to get other opinions. > If source is generated the framework can either; > a. Require you to subclass things to get functionality (like > torque allowing > subclasses of objects) > b. Require you to modify generated code > > My personal preference is to avoid (b) at all costs because it is hard to > evolve and is basically "wizards" from MS world of development. Same here. > Sun has one of these frameworks, I believe Oracle has one. There > is also a > large number of opensource ones. One that someone has recommended to me is > http://www.javanovic.com/ which I think is a Struts centric > version of this. Will check it. > The worst development project I worked on used a similar toolkit > that provide > to be inflexible - which resulted in us doing 4-5 times more work > than if we > coded it up ourselves. Would you care to share with us the name of that toolkit? Or maybe via a direct message to me? > In contrast, the best project I worked on used a similar toolkit > and it saved us massive amounts of time. Same thing for this: could you share the toolkit name? > My last 4.5 projects have used a MDA style > approach at least for certain aspects of the system and mostly > worked well > but we customized each model to specific domain. Was this using any specific framework or tools? In fact, I'm curious: I assume you use Avalon for most/all your projects; other than that, what libraries, frameworks and tools (open source or not) do you usually use? > Anyways this sort of framework is othogonal to Avalon. In fact > Avalon may be a > target of that framework (or it could use EJB SessionBeans). If > you want to > see how I think it should be done; search back through the Avalon mailing > list for "Attribute Driven Development" and "Model Driven Development". A > couple of weeks ago I was yammering on about it ;) I'm reading those threads right now. Thanks a lot for the feedback. > Peter Donald > *------------------------------------------------* > | You can't wake a person who is pretending | > | to be asleep. -Navajo Proverb. | > *------------------------------------------------* Love the sayings as well! -- Gonzalo A. Diethelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>