Leo Sutic wrote:
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>>Really. You think Avalon Framework has changed *that* much?
>>If I am not mistaken, EJB specs have changed a bit
>>too--probably more so than Avalon 4.x.
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>
> The difference is that Avalon is the only framework where a user
> is expected to write a container.
That is rapidly changing. Between ECM, Fortress, Merlin, and
Phoenix, they user will be able to just choose the container they
want, and be done with it. With the extensions experiment and
the work that Peter is doing on something more powerful, there
will be very little need to even extend a container.
However, with Fortress, it should be easy to do.
> EJB specs may change, but the only one that needs to play catch-up
> is the EJB container developer, not the bean developer.
And the tool developer. The change from compiled bean descriptors
and XML descriptors required some retooling. Of course, the cost
of upgrading your EJB container is generally a lot more than
upgrading an Avalon container.
>>>As long as Cocoon promises to run on JDK1.2, we have to support it.
>>
>>Oh, I see. However, you're the only one from Cocoon
>>complaining. In fact, quite a few of the Cocooner's are in
>>favor of upgrading their minimum JDK standard--and they need
>>a good reason to do it. We solved their problem for them.
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> I don't mind going to 1.3. But Cocoon has promised to be 1.2
> compliant. Remove that promise and we're fine. But until that
> is done, I think we at Avalon-land has some responsibilities
> to not switch JDK versions.
The thing is we cannot police all our users to see what they
are using. I posted this message to Cocoon-dev (at least I
think I did) to warn them so that they can make an informed
decision and increase their JDK pre-reqs for C2.2 or whatever
version that they are going to release the new ECM with.
> I'm complaining pre-emptively.
The whole component (aka ECM) package needs real docs--with the
JDK requirements listed.
> I don't want us to switch VM version, and only then realize that
> "Oops, didn't anyone change the sys reqs. to be JVM 1.3+ ?"
>
> It would not look good.
Which is why we give advanced notice.
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