On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, at 03:52 [+0100], Stephen McConnell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Presumably you have the demo running ok. > The demo file in src/etc/kernel.xml declares to the kernel that the > runtime merlin depedencies are contained in a directory named > "extensions". If that is not supplied then Merlin will not have > required classes available. > > >At the moment I don't think I should need an 'extensions > >library', > > > > You don't - Merlin does.
Long day? > >since everything is in the main classloader. Actually not > >quite everything is in there; I added jars to the Class-Path: manifest > >entry of the app as needed so the code would run, which eventually > >sucked in all of the 'extensions' jars with the exception of excalibur > >threadcontext, excalibur collections (which I assume is obsolete), > >excalibur configuration, and excalibur container. If the problem is > >that one of them is missing, it's showing up in a very strange way! > > > > Are you running with the merlin script ? It runs with a jar reference > and the jar has jar depedecy declarations. Thos depedent jar files > should not be in the classpath - thy should be in the "extensions" > directory (and only get dragged in on demand). > > > > >No matter how I set the <library/> entry, I can't get merlin to run > >without all the 'extension' jars in the manifest Class-Path:. I've > >tried the experiment of removing one jar from the Class-Path and then > >changing classpath and library to see if it would find the jar, and the > >app always dies in early Merlin processing. > > > > > > Class-path outside of merlin is the wronog thing to play with. If you > look at the merlin.bat file you will see that it is booting itself with > a single jar. The manifest of that jar contains the delcaration of the > depedent jar files - and the JRE checks the extension directory for > these. Remember - this is at the boot stage so I'm takling about the > -Djava.ext.dirs=.\extensions parameter. After merlin boots, the kernel > is loaded at which time you can declare more extension directories using > the <library/> element or declare jars using the <classpath/>. Bingo! It is the -Djava.ext.dirs. I run my app out of a jar, it didn't occur to me to look at the script... Gary > > > > > > >>In the kernel.xml file you should see something like: > >> > >> <!-- > >> Declaration of installed extension directories and kernel level > >>classpath. > >> In this demo we are referencing the Merlin classes in the embedded > >>demo so > >> we need to include Merlin and its' extension depedencies in directory > >> referenced within the library element. > >> --> > >> > >> <library dir="."> > >> <include name="extensions"/> > >> </library> > >> > >>This tells Merlin where to look for dependent jar files. > >> > >> > > > >Why does merlin.jar need to be found both in the main classloader > >and then again (I'm guessing) by another classloader? Jeez, I thought > >the chaining worked the other way! > > > > Because the extensions supplied on the java command declares the stuff > prive to merlin. Whereas the extension declared inside the kernel and > the classpath statements are all application space. > > > > >It's always like this... > > > > > > This sounds like bootstrap to me - my guess is that your lauching Merlin > differently. Anyway - its late and I could be wrong - if its the the > boot then send me you kernel.xml (but if it was that you would be > getting the info) and the log trace. > > Cheers, Steve. > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > >>Cheers, Steve. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>in the root profile. The class should be available through the main > >>>classloader -- it's in the same jar that everything else is! Based on > >>>what I've been able to figure out about the code, it's a matter of > >>>getting a profile, but I'm not sure what profile. > >>> > >>>I currently have no > >>>profiles... but this didn't seem like something that would require a > >>>profile from me! > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >> > >>Stephen J. McConnell > >> > >>OSM SARL > >>digital products for a global economy > >>mailto:mcconnell@;osm.net > >>http://www.osm.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Stephen J. McConnell > > OSM SARL > digital products for a global economy > mailto:mcconnell@;osm.net > http://www.osm.net > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:avalon-users-help@;jakarta.apache.org>