On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, at 03:52 [+0100], Stephen McConnell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Presumably you have the demo running ok.
> The demo file in src/etc/kernel.xml declares to the kernel that the
> runtime merlin depedencies are contained in a directory named
> "extensions".  If that is not supplied then Merlin will not have
> required classes available.
>
> >At the moment I don't think I should need an 'extensions
> >library',
> >
>
> You don't - Merlin does.

Long day?

> >since everything is in the main classloader.  Actually not
> >quite everything is in there; I added jars to the Class-Path: manifest
> >entry of the app as needed so the code would run, which eventually
> >sucked in all of the 'extensions' jars with the exception of excalibur
> >threadcontext, excalibur collections (which I assume is obsolete),
> >excalibur configuration, and excalibur container.  If the problem is
> >that one of them is missing, it's showing up in a very strange way!
> >
>
> Are you running with the merlin script ?  It runs with a jar reference
> and the jar has jar depedecy declarations.  Thos depedent jar files
> should not be in the classpath - thy should be in the "extensions"
> directory (and only get dragged in on demand).
>
> >
> >No matter how I set the <library/> entry, I can't get merlin to run
> >without all the 'extension' jars in the manifest Class-Path:.  I've
> >tried the experiment of removing one jar from the Class-Path and then
> >changing classpath and library to see if it would find the jar, and the
> >app always dies in early Merlin processing.
> >
> >
>
> Class-path outside of merlin is the wronog thing to play with.  If you
> look at the merlin.bat file you will see that it is booting itself with
> a single jar.  The manifest of that jar contains the delcaration of the
> depedent jar files - and the JRE checks the extension directory for
> these. Remember - this is at the boot stage so I'm takling about the
> -Djava.ext.dirs=.\extensions  parameter.  After merlin boots, the kernel
> is loaded at which time you can declare more extension directories using
> the <library/> element or declare jars using the <classpath/>.

Bingo!  It is the -Djava.ext.dirs.  I run my app out of a jar, it didn't
occur to me to look at the script...

        Gary

>
> >
> >
> >>In the kernel.xml file you should see something like:
> >>
> >>   <!--
> >>   Declaration of installed extension directories and kernel level
> >>classpath.
> >>   In this demo we are referencing the Merlin classes in the embedded
> >>demo so
> >>   we need to include Merlin and its' extension depedencies in directory
> >>   referenced within the library element.
> >>   -->
> >>
> >>   <library dir=".">
> >>     <include name="extensions"/>
> >>   </library>
> >>
> >>This tells Merlin where to look for dependent jar files.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why does merlin.jar need to be found both in the main classloader
> >and then again (I'm guessing) by another classloader?  Jeez, I thought
> >the chaining worked the other way!
> >
>
> Because the extensions supplied on the java command declares the stuff
> prive to merlin.  Whereas the extension declared inside the kernel and
> the classpath statements are all application space.
>
> >
> >It's always like this...
> >
> >
>
> This sounds like bootstrap to me - my guess is that your lauching Merlin
> differently. Anyway - its late and I could be wrong - if its the the
> boot then send me you kernel.xml (but if it was that you would be
> getting the info) and the log trace.
>
> Cheers, Steve.
>
>
> >     Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Cheers, Steve.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>in the root profile.  The class should be available through the main
> >>>classloader -- it's in the same jar that everything else is!  Based on
> >>>what I've been able to figure out about the code, it's a matter of
> >>>getting a profile, but I'm not sure what profile.
> >>>
> >>>I currently have no
> >>>profiles... but this didn't seem like something that would require a
> >>>profile from me!
> >>>
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