I think the problem is the "non-commercial purposes" statement, which doesn't 
mesh well with open source licenses. For example, it's OK if someone makes DVDs 
of Avogadro + sample files and sells that (as long as they also make the source 
code available).

But that doesn't seem to fit with the non-commercial requirement.

In any case, I've compiled a set of almost 100 CIFs from the Crystallographic 
Open Database. Certainly we can add support for searching/downloading from 
WebCSD (Pitt has access) and other online resources as well.

Thanks very much,
-Geoff

On Aug 23, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Steve Williams wrote:

> Thank you so much.  This might work quite well.  I'll pass this on to the 
> Avogadro development team.
> 
> Geoff: What do you think?  Will distributing about 500 CIF's including 
> copyright statement work in the Avogadro scheme of things?  It seems that 
> written permission to do so is available.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On 08/23/2011 06:07 AM, Dr Gary Battle (CCDC) via RT wrote:
>> Dear Steve,
>> 
>> We have a freely accessible teaching subset of ~500 structures available
>> for educational purposes. Please see: J. Chem. Educ., 2010, 87 (8), pp
>> 809–812.
>> 
>> CIFs from the teaching subset can be exported from the online WebCSD
>> interface at:
>> 
>> http://webcsd.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/teaching_database_demo.php
>> 
>> or via the free version of our crystal structure visualiser, Mercury,
>> which can be downloaded here:
>> 
>> http://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/free_services/mercury/downloads/
>> 
>> We would be very happy for you to include CIFs from the teaching subset
>> in Avogadro. The CIFs do however contain a standard copyright statement
>> which would need to be retained. We are currently reviewing these
>> statements, but in the meantime would gladly give written permission for
>> you to use and freely distribute these files for non-commercial
>> purposes. Please let me know if this is acceptable.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Gary.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed Aug 17 16:20:59 2011, wil...@appstate.edu wrote:
>>> I seem to remember that CSD used to have a small database with a few
>>> hundred structures that was available for free, mostly for educational
>>> purposes.  I think it did not come with conquest or any sophisticated
>>> search tools, but worked well with mercury.
>>> 
>>> I have looked at your web site and do not see this, so I am not certain
>>> that I am remembering this correctly.
>>> 
>>> So, I have two questions:
>>> 1) Does this (or something like it) still exist?
>>> 2) If so would it be possible to include some of the structures in it,
>>> as CIF files, as a part of the free quantum chemistry
>>> builder/visualization tool, Avogadro?  In order to include these, the
>>> CIF file structures would need to be without copy-right, and freely
>>> distributable.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help you might have with these questions,
>>> Steve Williams
>>> ASU Chemistry
>>> Boone NC 28608
>>> USA


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