The synchronous vs. asynchronous calling of handlers is a big issue, IMO. Some applications may not be ready for that. I wouldn't change that part unless there's a bug in that functionality. And AFAIK, there's none.

As for other options, could you please provide more details on what exactly is required by the modularization project? Do they need to use the Clipboard class, or they actually only need a few other classes from the java.awt.datatransfer classes? In other words, can we keep the Clipboard class in the AWT module, and only move those other classes needed by RMI and friends to a separate module?

If that is not an option, then I'd go with a "service" for delayed execution approach. By default the service would provide synchronous dispatching of runnables, but AWT could override it with an implementation that calls invokeLater() under the hood.

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best regards,
Anthony

On 4/7/2014 6:17 PM, Petr Pchelko wrote:
They could also get it using Clipboard.getSystemClipboard(), and the latter 
could call
the methods that you're changing from a non-EDT thread (directly or indirectly).
This is not an issue since the system clipboard is always an instance of a 
SunClipboard
which overrides these methods and uses SunToolkit.postEvent. And there's no API 
to
change the class of the returned system clipboard.

A user could obtain an instance of a Clipboard object by using its public 
constructor.
This is more interesting. If the user creates a Clipboard instance he has 
almost nothing to do with it.
The only place where the custom Clipboard could be passed is 
TransferHandler.exportToClipboard.
Indeed, after the change the Clipboard notifications will be called on the same 
thread where the
exportToClipboard is called, but as TransferHandler is the swing API is must be 
called on EDT,
so effectively nothing's changed. It might be an issue that the notifications 
become synchronous,
but I didn't find any problems with it.

  In any case, the fix that you're proposing changes the threading contract for 
these methods considerably.
And I don't think that this change is safe.

Option 2 is not safe as well, but it's way more complicated... Do you have any 
suggestions about some other
options?

Thank you.
With best regards. Petr.

On 07.04.2014, at 18:00, Anthony Petrov <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm aware of the reasons behind this issue. However, I'm still unsure whether 
this is a safe enough solution. A user could obtain an instance of a Clipboard 
object by using its public constructor. They could also get it using 
Clipboard.getSystemClipboard(), and the latter could call the methods that 
you're changing from a non-EDT thread (directly or indirectly). In any case, 
the fix that you're proposing changes the threading contract for these methods 
considerably. And I don't think that this change is safe.

--
best regards,
Anthony

On 4/7/2014 5:52 PM, Petr Pchelko wrote:
Clipboard is a part of AWT API. The AWT is a multi-threaded GUI toolkit, which 
means that users can call Clipboard's methods on
any thread. If we remove invokeLater(), we break this contract, which I'm not 
sure we want to do.
The FlavorListener and ClipboardOwner interfaces do not state that the 
callbacks would be called on EDT, so at least we are not breaking the spec.
The problem here is that Clipboard would be a  part of a different module and 
must be independent from AWT or the desktop module. Even reflectively 
independent.
This means we have 2 options here: option 1 is implemented in the fix.

Option 2 is to declare some "DelayedNotificationService", make the Clipboard 
look for this service using a ServiceLoader and make AWT implement the service
using the invokeLater. So if the Clipboard would be used in absence of desktop 
module it would deliver the notifications in place, and with the desktop module 
it will
use the invokeLater. Personally I think that the second option is way more 
fragile and unnecessary complicated.

The only place where the Clipboard is used directly is in swing's sandbox 
clipboard, but it's used internally and only on EDT. And it does not leak to 
the user.
So if we just remove the invokeLater we would likely not break anything. With 
the second option I would not be so sure.

With best regards. Petr.

On 07.04.2014, at 17:42, Anthony Petrov <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Petr,

Clipboard is a part of AWT API. The AWT is a multi-threaded GUI toolkit, which 
means that users can call Clipboard's methods on any thread. If we remove 
invokeLater(), we break this contract, which I'm not sure we want to do.

--
best regards,
Anthony

On 4/7/2014 5:16 PM, Petr Pchelko wrote:
Hello, AWT Team.

Please review the fix for the issue:
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8039377
The fix is here:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~pchelko/9/8039377/webrev.00/

The problem: Clipboard depend on the EventQueue. The solution - remove the 
invokeLater. The Clipboard object is used only as a Swing sandbox clipboard 
which is used from the EDT.
The user can't use in as the System clipboard, so there's no worries about the 
callback being executed on some privileged thread. So we can simply remove the 
invokeLater here.

With best regards. Petr.



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