On 4/8/20, 5:27 PM, Sergey Bylokhov wrote:
On 4/8/20 5:14 pm, Philip Race wrote:


I was trying to make it flow better and avoid some repetition
I did not think it necessary to enumerate subclasses> What motivates you to include "behavior" ?

To cover cases like animation during maximization/minimization of windows,
or animations when the window appeared on the screen.

Behaviour means more than that to me. I think listing sample visual effects and just
including animation as an example of a visual effect is sufficient.

Visual effects such as halos, shadows, motion effects and animations may
be applied to the window by the desktop window management system.
These are outside the knowledge and control of the AWT and so for the
purposes of this specification are not considered part of the AWT-defined window.

I have never seen "AWT-defined window" term, I assume we never used it before is it clear enough? Usually, we use "Top level window" which will cover AWT and Swing.

But the point here is the intent for this shape to visually defines the window,
but the desktop did something else.
So the intent is to distinguish what the Java application requested vs what happened.
I think it is clear enough.

Also Swing does not create Windows. Does it have native code to create its own ?
No, it just asks AWT to. So don't worry about that.

-phil.




-phil.

On 4/8/20, 5:03 PM, Sergey Bylokhov wrote:
On 4/6/20 12:24 pm, Philip Race wrote:
If we have to add anything I prefer the following :

Visual effects such as halos, shadows, motion effects and animations may be added by the desktop and affect the actual or perceived position, dimensions
or shape of the window.
These are usually outside the knowledge and control of the JDK and so for the purposes of this specification are not considered part of the AWT-specified window.

Are this text more clear than my version? I create it using the text forms/terms which
are already present in the javadoc.

The text where we describe bounds/location optionality:
 126  * Note: the location and size of top-level windows (including
 127  * {@code Window}s, {@code Frame}s, and {@code Dialog}s)
128 * are under the control of the desktop's window management system.
 129  * Calls to {@code setLocation}, {@code setSize}, and
 130  * {@code setBounds} are requests (not directives) which are
131 * forwarded to the window management system. Every effort will be
 132  * made to honor such requests.  However, in some cases the window
133 * management system may ignore such requests, or modify the requested
 134  * geometry in order to place and size the {@code Window} in a way
 135  * that more closely matches the desktop settings.

The new text about visual perception:
137 * The visual appearance and behavior of top-level windows (including 138 * normal/shaped/translucent/undecorated {@code Window}s, {@code Frame}s, 139 * {@code Dialog}s) are under the control of the desktop's window management 140 * system. The visual effects as shadows, motion effects, animations, 141 * and others may not be controlled by the applications but work according to
 142  * the desktop settings.

Both look aligned.



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