Mikko,

I tested you ftp with anonymous login but no good. is there a login? let me know.

nick

Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
Hi all !

I haven't configured anything for Axim yet. For normal PC I last used newest kernel from http://www.linuxkernel.org , but now there was only advertisements. Anyway in some other projects they have said this is a good kernel. So I will put this and some random patches etc. stuff from there and elsewhere to my (probably temporary) ftp-site, and some Axim stuff, that is from the handhelds website and elsewhere. I remind, and make a disclaimer now that the Axim stuff and possibly others are experimental, and there is no responsibility taken for any possible damages of the use of any of this stuff, and that the use of this stuff may cause the Dell quarantees or other quarantees to expire. So use of these are at your own risk, and I recommend to make backups of everything, including bios, and make sure, that you can restore the bios and everything else, in case of trouble. The use of those is discribed in some other different places in the web. Don't use anything, if you don't know what it is and how it is supposed to be used, and the disclaimer applies to this too, no responsibility taken of anything.
This is meant for the use of the Axim SD-card linux boot project only !
Mainly those who can do actual  work on the  kernel.

Try from here

    ftp://ftp.pwar.net

Let me know if the link don't work.

Mikko Silvennoinen


Joe Belford wrote:
I agree, I like the idea of a live CD, when I first started working with this I used the debian live CD as a development environment. I also agree that the touchscreen needs to be the main effort. How active is development of the handhelds.org <http://handhelds.org> kernel, it seems they're a little behind, I know newer isn't always better but I thought there was some touchscreen work done in linux 2.6.22. <http://2.6.22.> Is there any value added in looking into a newer kernel before we put a lot of effort into this? Otherwise, were is a good starting point for the touchscreen work? ts-adc.c?

Thanks,
Joe

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Mikko Silvennoinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Hi Jeroen !

    Thank God for you !
    It would be great if you could look into it, because it seems we
    have stuck to this
    problem and no one had a good glue how to solve it.
    I think solving the touch screen problem would kick this project
    really forward a big time.

    About the loop file-system and SD-card:
    I think it is not yet time for that, because the problems we are
    having with the touch screen.
    When the graphical interface works ok, it migth be one way to add
    to the project.
    But I would like to promote linux also in general, and I think
    the best way
    is to start with a good bootable dvd or cd with a loop-filesystem.
    That's why I suggested to use the Kanotix live-cd. That is the
    best one, where
    usb also works well, and it is optimized for 586-processor which
    makes it incredibly fast, but
    works with most machines now in use (no need for a 64-bit
    processor yet,
    and works well also with new flat screens,
    and there is a big variety of boot options with a graphical boot
    menu, and there is
programs for bluetooth and network configuration etc. in KDE-graphical interface.
    It's now my choice for base of my next bootable dvd-project. It
    is based on KNOPPIX,
    and both are Debian-based, so basicly everything that is
    instructed on the web-site
    applies as such.
One way, that I recommend, would be to make an own Kanotix-based bootable dvd for this
    Axim SD-card linux boot development project. It would be quite
    easy e.g. for me to add this stuff
    to my next dvd iso-image.

    One way to build a bootable live iso image from your own linux
    system fast is
    to install LiveBackup which is a program and set of tools to do
    that .
    I think it was found from SourceForge.
    It would be a fast and easy errorfree way to send a entire
    working development setup in a single file.

    It is not hard for a Windows user to burn an iso image to dvd
    e.g. with Nero.
    I could even convert the file to Nero's native format, if
    finding  iso format  from  Nero  with a
    mouse is overwhelming.

    At least Windows users download from:
    http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html

Mikko Silvennoinen Jeroen Dierckx wrote:
    Hi,

    On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Dominic Laberge
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    theres a kernel image for x50 here (2006) by Jeroen 'JeDi' Dierckx
    I wouldn't use these. They are very old, and don't have the features
    that were added since then (I believe the touchscreen isn't even
    working, because they were busy refactoring that part of the kernel
    code).

    I don't have the time to put a lot of effort in this (we are moving
    towards the iphone at work, developing for windows mobile is becoming
    a too much pita), but I am still very interested in this project.


    Some thoughts though:

    In my time, we created a method where we would just create an image
    and put that as file on a normal FAT16/32 SD card. We used an initrd
    that had the fat and loop file systems in it, and mounted the linux
    image using the loop device. This is a lot easier to deal with for
    non-linux people, because they don't have to use linux to partition
    the SD card, don't have to understand the linux device file system
    etc.

    I know what some guys will think: "If you don't know these things, you
    aren't going to help much with the project", but that is not true.
    There are two parts of developing this port: developing and
    testing/hacking. Non-linux, non-programming people can still help with
    the second part, where config files, background images with incorrect
    resolution, ...have to be checked and modified. If we would provide a
    couple of files that they can just copy to their SD card in windows
    and start linux from their device, we would reach a lot bigger
    audience.

    Generating the images is a bit of a hassle though, so actual
    development, where you have to recompile stuff and replace a lot of
    files, is probably easier using the normal method. For this, we used
    the usb filesystem (again built into the initrd) and mount the root
    filesystem over usb using NFS. This takes a while to set up, but once
    you got it, you can just develop, compile, and run. No image creation
    of SD card copying involved.

    So in short, we should make it easier for non-programmer or less
    technical people to be involved in this project, because it seems that
    a lot of people want to help but don't know how. So there should be a
    list of non-programmer issues that these people can have a look at,
    and an easy (not involving booting to linux, because that stops a lot
    of those people) way to do this.

    For the touchscreen though, I think there will be some programming
    involved. I didn't follow this closely enough to know this for sure,
    but it seems that the offset for the touchscreen is not always the
    same, so it isn't just changing some settings or one value. There's
    probably an interpolation algorithm that's wrong in the touchscreen
    code.

    I would want to test this stuff in a couple of days, when I can find
    some spare time, so is there an updated webpage somewhere with the
    current features, problems and an explanation how to build this port
    (which kernel sources, what patches, what distribution)?

    Greetz,
    JeDi



    ________________________________
    Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:23:28 +0300
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: aximx50-port@handhelds.org <mailto:aximx50-port@handhelds.org>
    Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?

    Hi Joe !

    By all means do the image with your kernel, but test it first and let know
    how well it works.
    Remember to name it so that it is clear, that it is for X50 and on what
    kernel version, and that it is patched test version.
    If you also could make a patch-file for the kernel about the patches you
    possibly made, and a text file explaining for what they are.
    (making a patch file: in linux console type diff --help and you see what you
    can do (compare all files in the
    changed source and the original source so, that the output is the
    differences in a ed script format that will change the original as patched
    version, I think and name it as whatname.patch. The output format can be
    attchieved with --ed option, -r option makes it recursively
    go thrue all subdirectories. To test the patch file copy the patch-file to
    the original source directory and in
    linux console type: patch -p1 --dry-run <
    /path/to/kernelsource/whatname.patch
    e.g.  patch -pl --dry-run < /home/joe/hanheldskernel/touchscreenfix1.patch
    If there is not reported problems with the dry run it is possible that the
    patch works.
    After actually using it without the --dry-run option if diff says the
    resulting source is exactly like the one you are trying to create,
    it's ok. Does anyone know to recommend any fancier diff options ? or have
    the whole suitable command line figured out ?

    Mikko Silvennoinen

    Joe Belford wrote:

    Thanks Mikko, I'm working on the 20070316 image for the X50 but, I've
    compiled my own kernel using the latest from handhelds.org 
<http://handhelds.org> CVS.  Currently
    2.6.21-hh20.  I can put together an image for the x50 based on the 200706
    image and this compiled kernel.  But before I do that I'd like to make sure
    it's cool with everyone, I don't want to start dumping a bunch of hacked
    images out there and making everyone lose faith in the project.
    -Joe

    On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, GonzaloF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

    2008/5/14 Dominic Laberge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
    for those who need updated link check out the project wiki (linux x50v on
    google)
    i downloaded the image for x50v today and x50 image is also available
    the direct link is : http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/ 
<http://projects.linuxtogo.org/%7Elaw/aximx50/>
    peace
    In http://projects.linuxtogo.org/~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/: 
<http://projects.linuxtogo.org/%7Elaw/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50/:>

    Index of /~law/aximx50/images/200706/aximx50
    [ICO]   Name    Last modified   Size    Description
    [DIR]   Parent Directory                -
    Apache/2.2 Server at projects.linuxtogo.org <http://projects.linuxtogo.org> 
Port 80

    There is no image available for x50!!!  is this updated?

    Thanks...

    GonzaloF

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