Hi, yes, I am subsribed to both axiom lists, but I was just busy. I missed a discussion about the GSoC. I think all of us has already expressed our opinions.
Thanks for the wishes, I also wish the Axiom project to become more widespread and to succeed. I think CAS is popular among students (as SAGE or SymPy shows) and also I think that a full potential of the computer algebra systems was not fully explited at all so far. However, it needs to be usable from a widespread, standard, preferably highlevel language. Lisp, SPAD, or Aldor are probably not going to be mainstream soon (and in my opinion that is the crucial factor of attracting more people to any software), but we had this discussion already, I know that some of you disagree, but that's what I think about it. I am also interested in collaboration. For example I am curious, how the Gruntz algorithm is going to look like in Aldor. However, Aldor is still not opensource and as I read some posts, maybe it is still not clear if it ever will (by open source, I mean DFSG free http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines). And if you choose the way of improving SPAD by yourself, with Axiom the only program that uses it (correct me if I am wrong), then in my opinion it's the same technological mistake as Maple or Mathematica did. I understand the points of trying to make a better language, however, I myself am not going to do it, as I don't believe it can ever really succeed. As I talked with some of the students applying to SymPy, they have pretty similar opinions to mine. So the time will tell, who invested his time better. I just want to make the point, that although we all want to contribute in the CAS field, I came to the conclusion that I can help the field more by contributing to SymPy rather than to Axiom. Regards, Ondrej On 4/12/07, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Axiom Developers; As motivation for further "sole searching" concerning the minimal interest in Axiom expressed by Summer of Code applicants to LispNYC (which very generously included Axiom in it's list of possible projects), I am forwarding the following email concerning SymPy. As you will read, a total of 5 applications were accepted for SymPy related projects! But first I would like to sincerely congratulate Ondrej Certik for obtaining such a large response to the SymPy project. I think that this is an encouraging sign that there is indeed still a lot of interest in computer algebra/symbolic compuation on the part of computer sciene students. I wish him and the participants in the SOC 2007 projects the the greatest success. I plan to continue to monitor the SymPy project and update the version of SymPy that is accessible on the Axiom Wiki: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxSymPy I don't see this as in conflict with any objectives of the Axiom project and in fact I hope that we can continue to collaborate to the greatest extent possible. Axiom developers can contribute just by trying examples online or by downloading and testing SymPy locally on their own computers and reporting problems as usual to the SymPy developers. I believe that Ondrej is subscribed to this Axiom email list, but obviously he may be a little too busy with details of the Sympy projects to contribute much to our discussion here. :-) Regards, Bill Page. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ondrej Certik Sent: April 12, 2007 5:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: summer of code Hi all, thanks to all of you for participating in the GSoC. As I wrote, we got 11 applications in total and 5 were selected (congratulations to Mateusz, Robert, Brian, Chris and Jason!), so it's a huge success, I didn't expect that. You can check it here: http://code.google.com/soc/psf/about.html http://code.google.com/soc/stsci/about.html http://code.google.com/soc/psu/about.html Thanks also to Mladen, Marc-Etienne and George, even though you weren't selected, you still helped SymPy a lot just by applying a high quality application. Because that's better than any other advertising. The technical issues with those selected will be done later, don't worry about it now. I'll be in touch. Ondrej
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