Team,
Dennis has been a long time contributor to Axis...Let's welcome him
with open arms to Axis2.
Here's my +1 to Dennis for Axis2 committer.
thanks,
dims
On 8/18/05, Dennis Sosnoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been having some off-list email exchanges on the issues of better
tools for going between Java and XML. This is relevant to both
start-from-Java approaches to web services, and handling schema
versioning. Since these issues are important for Axis2 I'll get this
thread going here, assuming nobody objects to us using the Axis2 list
for this purpose. I'm copying the jibx-devs list on my own emails on
this topic just so that people monitoring that list are also aware of
the discussion.
While we have a number of tools for generating Java object models to
(more or less) match a schema, most of these tools either cannot work
with pre-existing Java classes or can only work with existing classes
using their own built-in correspondences. This limitation makes it
very
difficult for users to take a start-from-Java approach to developing
web
services, since the users then have little or no control over the
schemas used by the web service (as seen with the JAX-RPC 1.0-style
doc/lit mapping). It also makes it very difficult for users to work
with
evolving schemas, since their data model will need to be regenerated
every time the schema changes. Because of this, users often end up
writing a translation layer into their applications to take the data
from the schema-centric model and convert it into structures actually
used by their main application code.
There are some libraries which provide more flexible conversions
between
Java and XML, including Betwixt as well as my own JiBX framework. JAXB
2.0 is also taking steps in this direction. The subject of the email
exchanges has been the desirability of better GUI tools for working
with
frameworks which support such flexible conversions.
Betwixt seems to offer very good support for starting from basics and
refining the mapping as you go. It basically offers defaults for
everything, then lets you override the defaults. JiBX takes almost the
opposite approach, requiring the user to specify everything (though
there is a tool which will generate a default binding automatically,
with a variety of overrides). I can certainly see the benefits to
providing a tool that allows an interactive approach to building a
JiBX
binding, basically starting with Betwixt-like defaults and allowing
overrides at every step of the way down to a detailed JiBX binding.
The
way I envision it this should show sample XML output (or the current
schema, for those developers able to understand schemas) at every step
of the way - when you change the binding, you immediately get the
change
reflected in the schema/sample XML. Ideally you should even be able to
go the other way - modify the schema, and have the binding
automatically
reflect the change (or replace the schema with a new version, and have
the binding adjust as best it can and then flag the mismatches). I've
been adding hooks to JiBX for some time with the intent of moving it
in
this direction.
Much of the off-list discussion has revolved around the possibility of
building a generic tool of this type, one able to work with different
frameworks. On thinking it over, it seems to me that at least the
general framework of the tool should be reusable - say the IDE
integration and XML/schema display and manipulation. That would leave
the need to write plugins for each binding framework to handle XML
instance and schema generation from a binding and set of classes, and
to
handle editing the actual binding definition (in whatever form that
takes - an XML file for Betwixt and JiBX, annotations for JAXB, etc.).
What do people think of this? Anyone want to jump right in and start
putting this together? ;-)
- Dennis
--
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/ - Oxygenating The Web Service
Platform
