I'm coming back to this after focussing on other things...

I agree with everyone that mustUnderstand checking is a core, and
important (if sometimes annoying) SOAP processing rule. I also don't
advocate ANYONE deploying a SOAP web services engine that doesn't do
that checking.

That said, I'm trying to embed Axis2 where Axis2 is not the 'whole
engine' or the 'whole node'. In that case, I want to be able to insert
mustUnderstand processing which 'knows' that a given set of headers
are/were/will be understood outside of the scope of the Axis2
handlers/engine. Even if I were to put that login in a custom handler
which runs before the engine, I'd then still incur the overhead of the
AxisEngine checkMustUnderstand. This is why I'd like to move it out.

Yes, there is a chance with moving it out that a user 'undeploys' the
mustunderstand checking without replacing it. But, I'm happy to
document (in axis2.xml) that that is a supremely bad idea and that it
should only be done if you really know what you're doing.

There's plenty of rope provided by axis2 to let users hang
themselves... I think this is only another couple of inches.

David

On 23/01/07, Manoj Khangaonkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi David,

If the mustUnderstand handler runs last, that means a node cannot ignore a
header until all the handlers have
executed. Until the handler executes, the node does not know if it must
process the header or not. One would think
that a check like mustUnderstand which is fundamental to SOAP should happen
early , not late in the cycle.

If mustUnderstand=true and you ignore the header, does that not make it non
compliant with SOAP ?

Also what if some one else comes up with a requirement that their handler
needs to run last ?

Mj


On 1/22/07, David Illsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm looking at using the axis2 engine as part of a larger system which
> will have a set of roles which we want respected and perhaps a set of
> headers whcih should be ignored for mustUnderstand checking because
> anothe rpart of the system will deal with them.
>
> Currently the mustUnderstand checking is simply a method in
> AxisEngine. I'd quite like to pull this out into a handler which runs
> last. This would have the advantage that it would be simple for other
> people to use in a similar way (perhaps this would be useful for
> synapse?) and reduces the complexity of AxisEngine.
>
> Any thoughts? Objections?
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
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> David Illsley - IBM Web Services Development
>
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