David Illsley wrote:

That's not a distinction that I think holds water. If I go ahead and
ignore a -1 in a discussion, I fully expect the commit to be -1'd for
whatever reasons were given in the discussion, the effect is the same
(there's not a visible social norm here to make me expect anything
else).

I'd expect a reasonable amount of friction to be generated if I went
ahead and ignored a couple of -1s in a mail thread and committed the
code anyway. You don't think that would happen?

No.

Are you saying that if during the discussion of some topic some folks express disagreement via -1 and then even if the decision is to go ahead (via consensus) but then when the commit comes the dissenters will -1 the commit (thereby effecting a veto)?? I don't see that happening here .. but if it is then we definitely have major problems community-wise.

Please point to some cases where this has happened so we can immediately work towards correcting this.

Thanks for pursuing with this topic; we need to be a proper, open, welcoming community and if there are mistakes made (including (and probably) by me) I'd like to work towards correcting them immediately.

Sanjiva.
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Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
Director; Open Source Initiative; http://www.opensource.org/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/

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