Hi Lawrence, Let me see whether I can make sense of some of the stuff. Others will chip in as needed and will surely holler if I make a mistake.
> Axis2 Third Party Dependencies > ------------------------------ > activation-1.1.jar MIME support > annogen-0.1.0.jar Annotation support > axiom-api-1.2.5.jar XML pull parsing > axiom-dom-1.2.5.jar XML pull parsing > axiom-impl-1.2.5.jar XML pull parsing > backport-util-concurrent-2.2.jar ? Thread pooling support. This feature is built in for Java 1.5 and this particular jar has a backport of that code to Java 1.4 > commons-codec-1.3.jar URL encoding? > commons-fileupload-1.1.1.jar Used for uploading new service > files in the admin client? Yes - needed only when using the webapp > commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? Yes - but primarily on the client side. I believe it is needed in the server side if asynchronous calls are to be supported. > commons-io-1.2.jar ? > commons-logging-1.1.jar Is this related to Log4J? Well kind of. Commons logging is a common API on multiple logging frameworks (log4j/java.util.logging) but allows the switching of the logging engine easily. All the logging code inside the Axis2 source are made using commons logging classes. > geronimo-annotation_1.0_spec-1.1.jar More annotation support? > geronimo-jms_1.1_spec-1.1.jar JMS bindings? JMS transport really. > httpcore-4.0-alpha5.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? > httpcore-nio-4.0-alpha5.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? > httpcore-niossl-4.0-alpha5.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? The nio (non-blocking io) transport dependancies. Its an improved version of the HTTP transport. My understanding is that this is used optionally (the default Axis2.xml does not point to this transport AFAIK) but needs confirmation > jaxb-api-2.0.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? > jaxb-impl-2.0.5.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? > jaxb-xjc-2.0.5.jar Used by the Axis2 kernel? These were primarily for the Jaxb based code generation but now the JAX-WS module uses these as dependencies. In any case these are needed 1. if the user needs to generate code with Jaxb data binding 2. If he needs the JAX-WS module running (which is only on a jdk 1.5 environment) > jaxen-1.1.1.jar XPath engine - where is this used? AXIOM has a Jaxen based Xpath implementation and this jar has the core Jaxen classes for it > jettison-1.0-RC1.jar JSON StAX parser > jibx-bind-1.1.5.jar Related to JAXB? > jibx-run-1.1.5.jar Related to JAXB? Nope. Jibx is an alternate databinding. My guess is one would need these only to use Jibx generated code (databinding - either on server side or client side) > juli-6.0.10.jar ? Juli is an alternate implementation to Java.util logging from tomcat. Here is what the tomcat site says "A limitation of JDK Logging appears to be the inability to have per-web application logging, as the configuration is per-VM. As a result, Tomcat will, in the default configuration, replace the default LogManager implementation with a container friendly implementation called JULI, which addresses these shortcomings." It seems that this one is needed only when the webapp comes to play > log4j-1.2.14.jar Logging - Is this optional? I don't > always want to use Log4J - for > example, when working with Eclipse. I suppose the default logging configuration with common-logging is log4j. I assume we can turn it to java.util logging but most folks are not in favor of it (it will reduce this jar though) > mail-1.4.jar MIME support? Yes > mex-impl-1.3.jar ? Metadata exchange implementation (WS-Mex). > neethi-2.0.2.jar WS Policy - Is this optional? I don't think so. This would be required both at runtime and codegen time to process policies > soapmonitor-1.3.jar Is this part of Axis2 or another > project? Is this just used by the > Axis2 runtime or is it just the > standalone SOAP monitor tool? soapmonitor has two parts - the applet and this server side component. We may be able to make it optional (i.e. pack it with the war only) > stax-api-1.0.1.jar XML pull parsing - I think this > should be replaced in the next > version with Geronimo's > API as Axiom has made the change I'm not sure whether the API has changed. But this jar is only the API. > tribes-6.0.10.jar ? Clustering implementation > woden-1.0-incubating-M7b.jar WSDL 2.0 support > wsdl4j-1.6.2.jar WSDL 1.1 support > wstx-asl-3.2.1.jar XML pull parsing > xbean-2.2.0.jar Looks like a competitor to OSGi - > where is this used? Don't let the name fool you :) This is actually the XMLBeans core classes. There is a sepearate project called XBeans that has no relation to this. This one is only needed if one uses XMLBeans classes. > xalan-2.7.0.jar XSLT - Where is this used? > xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar DOM parser - Does Axis2 actually > need a DOM parser? I thought > everything was done with > pull parsing. > xml-apis-1.3.03.jar DOM parser Axis2 has some DOM based code in the code generator but the standard VM DOM impl is sufficient for that. The above jars are used primarily by the SAAJ impl which has a DOM level 3 dependency. JDK 1.4 included parser (Crimson) is DOM level 2 I believe. > XmlSchema-1.3.2.jar XML schema support > > Thanks, > > Lawrence > To me it seems that we can ship certain jars only for the webapp. Also we have been discussing three types of distros, minimal, standard and full which will include jars in various degrees but it seemed a bit confusing at that time for the users (this was actually done in 1.0 release). 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