Hi Thilina,
        I agree with you on both points. But as Axis2 1.4 also contained the
docs shall we go on like this in 1.4.1 and do the change in Axis2 1.5. I
will remove the tool binaries from the from the tools module and shall we
continue this vote.  I removed the tool binaries from the src dist [1], and
the old src dist can be found here [2].

thanks,
nandana

[1] - http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip
[2] - http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/old_src/


On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Thilina Gunarathne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hi Keith,
> I somewhat agree that the src dist should be able to recreate the release
> artifacts. But in this case we will not be able to recreate only the docs
> distro, we can even create java docs.. If other dist's are failing due to
> the absense of docs module, then we have done something seriously wrong in
> the build.. Also if you look at the real world usage of a src dist, it's
> mostly used for browsing the source when debugging in IDE's. Not for
> rebuilding a docs release.
>
> The reason for the seperate docs dist and not including docs to the src
> dist in here  [1] was due to the size of the docs. We did not had the docs
> in the src dist in  1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 releases.
>
> This is just my personal feeling about including the docs in the src
> release, though [1] was discussed at the time of 1.1 release[2][3].  I'm
> won't object for this release going forward with src dist containing docs.
>
> But we need to make sure to remove the binaries inside the tools folder of
> the src dist. Those binaries take 40 MB's..
>
> thanks,
> Thilina
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Axis2/releases/1.1/release_artifacts
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/so6fhofmelqngoey
> [3] http://markmail.org/message/eldizjrjg734evag
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:00 PM, keith chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Thilina,
>>
>> The docs are needed in the source distribution, otherwise you cannot
>> build using the source distribution. I believe the source distribution
>> should be able to produce the release artifacts on its own.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Keith.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Thilina Gunarathne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I notice the size of the source distribution is huge (55MB)..  The
>> culprit
>> > seems to be the tools module.. It contains binaries for the 3 plugins
>> and a
>> > combined binary for them too...
>> >
>> > One other thing I noticed is that we have included the docs module in to
>> the
>> > src dist too, which is not needed according to our earlier plan [1].
>>  This
>> > has caused the size of the src dist to be  increased quite a bit in the
>> 1.4
>> > release too (6.9 MB in 1.3, 12 MB in 1.4) due to the inclusion of
>> > documentation..
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > Thilina
>> > [1]
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws/FrontPage/Axis2/releases/1.1/release_artifacts
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Michele Mazzucco
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 for me.
>> >>
>> >> Michele
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 07:28, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
>> >>
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>> >>> Hi Devs,
>> >>>
>> >>> Please review:
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist>
>> >>>
>> >>> Maven2 repository:
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/m2-repo/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/m2-repo/>
>> >>>
>> >>> SVN Info:
>> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/webservices/axis2/branches/java/1_4
>> >>> (Revision: 684402)
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's my +1 to declaring the above dist as Axis2 1.4.1.
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks,
>> >>> nandana
>> >>>
>> >>> Links to the individual Distribution/Tool files are listed below:
>> >>>
>> >>> Distributions :
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-bin.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-bin.zip>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-docs.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-docs.zip>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-src.zip>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-war.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/dist/axis2-1.4.1-war.zip>
>> >>>
>> >>> Tools :
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-aar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-aar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-ant-plugin-1.4.1.jar<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-ant-plugin-1.4.1.jar>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-codegen-wizard.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-codegen-wizard.zip>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-service-archiver-wizard.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-eclipse-service-archiver-wizard.zip>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-mar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-mar-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-idea-plugin-1.4.1.zip<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-idea-plugin-1.4.1.zip>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-java2wsdl-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-java2wsdl-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-wsdl2code-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/axis2-1.4.1/tools/axis2-wsdl2code-maven-plugin-1.4.1.jar>
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