Hi,

I'm currently evaluating  open source libraries that support SMPP and
debuging the Axis2 Http transport. I'm currently Woking with jsmpp.While
reading the SMPP protocal specification [1] and working with jsmpp [2] I
found out that In SMPP there is a way to archive reliability by having a
delevery report machanishm . (Note that this is Application layer
reliability) . But this feature may be avalible or not depending on the SMSC
( Short Message Service Center* *) that the transport is connecting.

So in Axis2 and Aynapse domain does application level reliability in SMS
transport add value? Any thoghts?

And aslo i would be glad  to get some feed back on realworld senarios that
users  will use this transport with Axis2 and Synapse.

thank you,
Charith

[1] http://www.smsforum.net/SMPP_v3_4_Issue1_2.zip

[2] http://code.google.com/p/jsmpp/


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Charith Wickramarachchi <
charith.dhanus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes i m also think that the message size is a major design issue in this.
> I was thinking of limiting the payload size.Because IMO most of the
> practical scenarios the maximum payload size given in SMPP will be
> sufficient.
>
> I think aggregating messages will be harder since we have no control over
> the other side.
>
> I hope i'll be able to get you ideas in the future while i m doing the
> project
>
> thank you,
> Charith
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Ajith Ranabahu 
> <ajith.ranab...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Charith,
>>
>> This is a very good idea indeed. As many pointed out, there are
>> immense benefits in doing this and it is indeed great for a GSoC.
>>
>> I think Sagara has a good point. Since there is a character limit per
>> message you need to think about how larger payloads can be transfered.
>> For cell phones I remember there was a format where you can send one
>> single message consisting of up to some max number of separate
>> messages. I remember this to be Nokia specific thing since they
>> appeared messed up in the old Ericcsson I used to have.[ Am writing
>> this mail offline so can't google :(  Not sure whether it was adopted
>> as a standard ] . You can definitely take a look at such things.
>> Ultimately if you can comeup with a protocol binding (such as the WSDL
>> bindings for HTTP or SMTP) that would be an ideal outcome. Such a
>> binding would at least become a de-facto standard if you are
>> successful :)
>>
>> Guys that have more knowledge in SMS can help out here, Can SMS
>> transfer binary ? [I doubt whether it can. It seemed to be only
>> ASCII]. If so you can think of more space efficient XML serializations
>> such as fastinfoset.
>>
>> Just some ideas
>>
>> Ajith
>>
>> 2009/3/19 Sagara Gunathunga <sagara.gunathu...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi Charith,
>> > It always  better to implement for a  specification instead of  a
>> > specific implementation such as SMSlib ,  Initially  you can set up
>> > SMPPSim for  testing  it just like running a HTTP server.
>> >
>> > Any way what is your plan to handle size of the the payload messages ..?
>> >
>> > This is not a problem with other protocols like  HTTP,JMS or mail but
>> > SMS  you need to think about the size of the massage.  According to
>> > the SMPP spec "short_message size" is limited to 254 Octet String,
>> > also this value may be vary with networks. pay your attention for
>> > possible solution for this.
>> >
>> > Thanks ,
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ajith Ranabahu
>>
>> Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its
>> creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain
>> too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Charith Dhanushka Wickramarachchi
> http://charithwiki.blogspot.com/
>
>


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