On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 13:18, Davanum Srinivas<dava...@gmail.com> wrote: > Andreas, > > LOL!, Can you please point them to me?
Sure, the comments were related to the change in r785712, the change in r785716 and to WSCOMMONS-477. Thanks, Andreas > Each committer does his/her own thing...i was just pointing out what is > being done as a whole team :) > > thanks, > dims > > On 07/23/2009 07:15 AM, Andreas Veithen wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:55, Davanum Srinivas<dava...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dennis, >>> >>> Since my current employer's name came up... >>> >>> * We rigorously track latest changes in >>> Axiom/Axis2/ws-commons/xml-schema/woden etc. Andreas is particularly very >>> productive :) >> >> HELP!!! Big Blue has a file about me ;-) >> >>> * Any changes we have to these projects, we track those as well and make >>> sure they get back into Apache SVN. But that tends to be in fits and >>> starts. >> >> Do you also track the comments that people make about changes done by >> committers from IBM? In my follow-up list I still have three comments >> that I made about changes committed by Rich, but he didn't answer yet. >> >>> I really don't want to comment on anything else. >>> >>> thanks, >>> dims >>> >>> On 07/23/2009 03:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Dennis, >>>> >>>> First of all, it is not true that Axis2 work is lead by WSO2 any more .. >>>> that changed a long time ago. We're continuing to contribute but we're >>>> not >>>> the only contributors. IBM was contributing too but they seem to have >>>> take >>>> things in-house (again) but I may be wrong (hopefully someone will speak >>>> up). >>>> >>>> I think Axis2 is pretty much a stable product now and lots of people are >>>> using it productively. If there are issues that matter to you then as >>>> one >>>> of >>>> the developers should also look at it; there's no "company" action here! >>>> That's simply not the way Apache works. In reality, projects go thru >>>> peak >>>> development times and stable times. From my personal point of view, >>>> Axis2 >>>> is >>>> "done" and its working. You've got something scratching? Well, you know >>>> how >>>> to itch it :). Of course there are 100s of JIRAs but if its not a thing >>>> that >>>> bothers people it won't get fixed. This is open source; please fix it or >>>> find a way to make the bug something that bothers people. >>>> >>>> Every Axis2 release took months to do. Why? Beats the hell of out of me >>>> on >>>> one side but on the other side its because there are so many dependent >>>> projects. >>>> >>>> Totally +1 for fixing the Web site stuff up. If the docs are messed up >>>> then >>>> we should do a 1.5.1 release. >>>> >>>> Sanjiva. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Dennis Sosnoski<d...@sosnoski.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm starting to wonder about the health of the Axis2 project, and >>>>> thought >>>>> it might be useful to initiate a discussion on this topic. >>>>> >>>>> The 1.5 release of Axis2 took 8 months from initial proposal to when it >>>>> finally escaped out the door, and the results frankly don't seem to >>>>> reflect >>>>> the amount of elapsed time. Even the Javadocs are messed up in the >>>>> release >>>>> (as well as on the website). One of the main features headlined in the >>>>> release notes is the transport refactoring - but the only transport >>>>> available is HTTP, since there seems to be no inclination to get out a >>>>> release of the new commons transports (which IMHO shows why splitting >>>>> these >>>>> off into a separate project was a bad idea). There isn't even an entry >>>>> in >>>>> the WS-Commons page at >>>>> http://ws.apache.org/commons/projects-overview.htmlfor the transports, >>>>> so >>>>> it's hard to tell the state of this project. There's >>>>> also no indication of when we'll have a Rampart release to go along >>>>> with >>>>> Axis2 1.5. >>>>> >>>>> I realize a lot of the Axis2 and Rampart work is being led by WSO2, and >>>>> perhaps the people in that organization have a plan. But if that's the >>>>> case, >>>>> I'd appreciate it if they could make it public for the rest of us to >>>>> know >>>>> what's going on. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> - Dennis >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dennis M. Sosnoski >>>>> Java XML and Web Services >>>>> Axis2 Training and Consulting >>>>> http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz >>>>> Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >