Just thought I'd inform y'all.  We (Tom and Rich and Richard and I) decided
to call this new service implementation a "Locator".  It may seem a bit
obscure at first, but the service stanza contains location information; and
it makes a lot of sense when you look at the client code:

AddressBook ab = new AddressBookServiceLocator().getAddressBook();

I'll make sure the user's guide is updated appropriately.

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Russell Butek/Austin/IBM@IBMUS on 02/05/2002 09:17:32 AM

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I still stand by my argument, but I don't feel as strongly about it today.
Two reasons:
1.  I just went through 15 tests and changed names from XXX to
XXXServiceImpl and all but 2 have the string "ServiceServiceImpl".  Yuck.
2.  I can't come up with a decent replacement for "Impl".

Your suggestion about leaving off Impl and putting 'Interface" on something
else won't work.  The names of all the generated files are fixed by JAX-RPC
except the skeleton and the 2 impls; and the binding name MAY be used for
the SDI.

I'm still not happy with your suggestion, but it may become the one I'm
least unhappy with.

I'M STILL HOPING SOMEONE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER SUFFIX THAN "Impl"!

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Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 02/05/2002 08:58:38 AM

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Well, he didn't sway me as much. :-)

How about the rule: "the service implementation name ends with the string
'ServiceImpl'".

I also am not a fan of having 2 "Impl" files.  But I don't have any really
good replacement names off the top of my head.  Can we change one of the
other file names to be called "Interface" and drop the Impl from its
corresponding concrete java class?

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Tom, I think Richard's swayed me.  I don't think it's a good idea to make
the rules complex.  It should simply be "the service implementation is
named <serviceName>ServiceImpl."  Period.  If we add "unless <serviceName>
ends in Service, in which case it is <serviceName>Impl" then we lose
clarity.

With that said, I still don't particularly like "ServiceImpl".  We happen
to call both the implementation template generated for a binding an "Impl"
and the concrete service implementation an "Impl".  If we could call one or
the other something else I'd be happy.  Any ideas?

binding impl:  <bindingName>Template
service impl:  <serviceName>Impl

binding impl:  <bindingName>Impl
service impl:  Concrete<serviceName>

binding impl:  <bindingName>Impl
service impl:  <serviceName>Factory

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Richard Sitze/Charlotte/IBM@IBMUS on 02/04/2002 09:39:46 AM

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It's generated code.  We are use to seeing "stupid names" coming from
generated code :-).

Seriously, when trying to figure out what the code generators are doing,
minimizing the variences in generated names seems like the best choice.   A
"stupid" artificial name, yet no question on the intent or lineage of the
name.

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Here is a suggestion: Check for "Service" at the end of the name, and don't
append it if it's already there.  This prevents the stupid name. Still
avoids name clashes.

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JAX-RPC 0.6 discussed generating a service interface and a service
implementation.  The interface was optional.  In the interests of
minimizing generated files, AXIS opted to NOT generate the interface.

In JAX-RPC 0.7 the service interface is no longer optional.  If the service
is named X, the service interface is named X.  That's the name we'd been
using for the implementation.  I would like to rename the implementation to
XServiceImpl.  I will not simply rename it XImpl because I've occasionally
seen a binding and a service share the same name and we already generate an
implementation template called <bindingName>Impl.  Of course, most often
the service name is something like XService, so we'd be generating the
rather strangely named class XServiceServiceImpl.  I'd be happy to hear
better suggestions if folks have them.

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