I agree that it is critical to separate the bean class from the meta data. Here's another attempt at the helper interface
interface Helper { /** * Return meta data about the object that is used * by the serializer/deserializer. The default emitter * may emit org.apache.axis.description.TypeDesc, but * a specific implementation is free to use whatever * model is appropriate. */ public Object getMetaData(); /** * Returns a serializer for the specific encoding. * (i.e. the helper implementation may have separate serializers * for doc literal and encoded.) * The returned serializer could be an axis generic serializer * or a custom serializer. * (Also note that the serializer has writeSchema capability). **/ public org.apache.axis.encoding.Serializer getSerializer(QName encoding); /** * Returns a deserializer for the specific encoding. (see notes above) */ public org.apache.axis.encoding.Deserializer getDeserializerAs(QName deserializer); } Comments ? Rich Scheuerle XML & Web Services Development 512-838-5115 (IBM TL 678-5115) Richard Sitze/Charlotte/I To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BM@IBMUS cc: Subject: Re: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation 03/11/2002 04:32 PM Please respond to axis-dev +1 to stepping back and designing (ie. cease code-checking on current direction) It's critical that we isolate JAX-RPC implementation details (Meta-data) from the classes exposed to the user. We need a design that reflects this in place ASAP, and we need to be writing to the design to minimize unnecessary rework later. I'm all for refactoring, but I'm even more for starting off on the right foot for the users. If we expose the meta-data to the users, we are going to regret it... +1 on an interface. +0 on this specific interface. Those who are dealing with this section of code need to agree on this. <ras> ******************************************* Richard A. Sitze [EMAIL PROTECTED] CORBA Interoperability & WebServices IBM WebSphere Development R J Scheuerle Jr/Austin/IBM@IB To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUS cc: Subject: Bean Class/Bean Class Helper Generation 03/11/2002 04:14 PM Please respond to axis-dev There have been several recent changes to the Bean Class generation to support more advanced xml features...namely attributes. I applaud the new functionality, but we need to step back and consider a more flexible architectural direction. I would like to see all of the meta data information removed from the java bean class and placed in a Helper class that extends a Helper interface. Here is a first pass at the Helper interface: interface Helper { public org.apache.axis.description.TypeDesc getTypeDesc(); public org.apache.axis.encoding.Serializer getSerializerAs(String mechanismType); public org.apache.axis.encoding.Deserializer getDeserializerAs(String mechanismType); } The generated bean class should contain ONLY the getters/setters describing the bean (and perhaps the equals() method...which needs some work). This would adequately decouple the logical bean from the serialization/deserialization of the bean. The BeanSerializerFactory/BeanDeserializerFactory could be tweaked to always look for a corresponding Helper class to find the meta data or find the custom serializer/deserializer. The generic serializer/deserializer classes should use default behaviour if the helper class is not available. (In fact I am in favor of having separate meta data aware serializers/deserializers.) Separating the bean and the bean helper would allow users to provide custom Helper emitters to add custom serializers etc. Please comment. Rich Scheuerle XML & Web Services Development 512-838-5115 (IBM TL 678-5115)