Rick,

This was discussed in detail on the conference calls with Sam, the release manager, 
and a large number of committers.  I believe you were on these calls.  The time for 
raising objections to the plan is not after the plan has been agreed upon. :-(

We are in closedown mode - very little to nothing goes in.
I think that is pretty simple.  We are at T-2 days till release!

What fix exactly are you hot to get in?  Have you convinced Sam that it should go in?  
How many votes does it have?  What is the risk factor?

I will -1 any change for 1.0 that doesn't have a very low risk factor.
REASON: We are too close to release to make any risky changes.

I believe that is sufficient, don't you?
I also believe that others feel the same way.  Others - speak up! :-)

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Tom Jordahl
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No Tom, that's not what that says nor does it say that we are going to just
ignore what people have requested in.

What I asked has also nothing todo with the "Truckstopper" mode criteria
nor does that mean abandoning what we agreed on earlier namely committers
requesting things put in and if someone feels no they should -1 with
REASON!.

The mode you are advocating is:

Sure put things on the dock, and we won't bother telling you not to,
because in the end we plan on loading the truck with only what we want and
take just taking off.  -1 to that!


Rick Rineholt
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Rick,

See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=axis-dev&m=103339449319208&w=2

This plan was approved via Email and on the Conference call that followed
it (which I believe you were a part of).

We are in truckstopper mode: Would you run after the truck taking the CDs
away to fix this bug?

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Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development



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Tom,
I don't remember  us agreeing on " automatic -1, or the overwhelming
agreement on inclusion".   I would have -1 that plan.  I think if someone
has gone to the trouble of asking  something to be put in and someone
disagrees it deserves a  REAL -1 reply AND a some reason why.
The approach I would have liked seen is:

A note:
These fixes have been asked to be submitted to R 1.0 branch with no -1 for
the last two days:
- Fix 1
- Fix 2
etc
If no -1's are made by end of the day they WILL be merged in tonight.

If this wasn't too much of a burden.



Rick Rineholt
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No fixes have been merged in to 1.0 since rc2 was built on Monday.
Perhaps it would help if there was a summary of fixes that are in
consideration?

My take on it is that NO src/* fixes will be approved (automatic -1 from
Sam) unless we have an overwhelming agreement on inclusion.

My take on the only two changes I wouldn't -1:
isConvertable() change: +1
 - it is a regression
 - it is low risk

servlet.jar change: +1
 - 'look like dorks' bug
 - another regression
 - medium-low risk


All doc/* and samples/* files should be merged from HEAD in to 1.0 before
the final build.  It would also not be unreasonable for **/build.xml to be
merged also, but this should be case by case.

In all cases, Sam Ruby is the final authority on what gets merged as he is
the release manager.
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Tom Jordahl
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I've asked for some fixes voted into R 1.0 without any -1's and I've seen
others do the same, but not sure except doing diffs and being familiar with
all the changes to determine what has been accepted in R1.0.  Is there
another way and I just missed it?   (except the diff solution :-)

Rick Rineholt
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