----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Apache SOAP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 19:51 Subject: Re: time for a Web services PMC? (was: Fw: spinning out projects (was: incubator project))
> At least all the folks who have replied on soap-dev or axis-dev > have +1'ed the idea of having a common umbrella for all Apache > Web services projects. I personally think we'd be missing out > on a great branding opportunity if we don't do that. maybe we need to start adding some more in the incubator. I have a little extension to axis I'm getting ready to commit, but it may have .net client support there too. > > A questions to ponder: > > Only one question? (You had "s" at the end ..) > > > The PMC should consist of the set of core and active committers for a > > project. Do we have such a set that spans these various codebases? Or > > do we have essentially non-overlapping sets of committers? > > Is that a new rule? I don't see Xerces committers being Axis > committers or Xalan committers being Xerces committers or vice-versa. > If that's not what has been the case so far why the new rule? > I always thought that PMC was a set of elected reps from the > various projects and they got elected by virtue of their individual > credibility. Clearly folks (including you it seems considering today's > discussion on the reorg list!) have different understanding of what > the PMC is about and how its constituted. some clarification may come from a reorg mail by roy: On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The concept of a PMC, and the reason that anyone having a vote on > the project code-base should be a member of the PMC, is to provide > legal protection to those people as individuals. Not being on a PMC > (as defined by the bylaws) means that each and every decision made > by those committers is outside the scope of Apache's legal > protection, which in turn means that if a mistake is made (or some > asshole lawyer just feels like it), any suit against the committer > actions (such as infringement of some unknown patent) would have to > be defended by the committers on their own. The ASF would be able > to defend the code itself, but not the people whose actions were > outside the PMC. so, I'm in favor of legal indemnity for my commits, which, if it means PMC membership, I'm happy to go with.