Hi, Good news, the problem was that I hadn't set up my JRE to correctly deal with the HTTP proxy server that is on my current network. sorry for raising that false alarm. The samples seem to work now. Nirmal. Nirmal Mukhi/Watson/IBM@ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBMUS cc: Subject: RC3 problems 01/23/2003 05:38 AM Please respond to axis-dev Hi, I have some good news to report - I found poblems with the same samples in the RC1. I know from previous use of the RC1 that those problems did not exist before. So this means that either there is something wrong with my environment - network issues, or installed JAR versions (I am on a different machine than the one I normally use) or the external services used by those samples have changed in some way, both of which absolve WSIF of responsibility :-) But of course weneed more testing to identify why this is happening. Nirmal.