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I've been using Soap web services for about 2 years. It took my many weeks of learning and fighting with Axis. Then I found out that three quarters of the Soap specification was being "deprecated" or at least falling out of favour, and now we should be using something called document/literal. It took me a few more to find out what it *really* was and how it related to "wrapped" mode (are they the same? are they different? how so?). Then I came to the conclusion that I'd better write my WSDL by hand, where, again, 3/4 of it is a pointless leftover of an overengineered specification for the stuff that fell out of favour. So, now I have a "wrapped" web service where all I want to do is return XML documents and the web service response to my XXX operation has this structure:

soapenv:Envelope
    soapenv:Body
        XXXResponse
            XXXReturn
                XXXResult
                  myActualXML



So, there, *FIVE* levels of useless elements (response, return and result!!! give me a break!). Now I was considering that I really needed a wrapping element for some of my responses but I'm resisting the idea of yet another level.

Well, I know all this ranting is useless but I just wanted to share some of my frustrations with the list :-)

Thanks for hearing me hehehe
</RANT>

BarZ

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