hi Anne.

On 8/29/07, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nice article Dennis, but you haven't addressed the fundamental issue
> associated with the code-first approach. I'd like to see a code-first
> approach that allows me to use corporate-approved schema datatypes so
> that my applications aren't responsible for proliferating a ton of
> incompatible types.


Please bear with me asking this question in this thread.
 I am bit new to this subject and can you please describe this further or
point me to an article which talks about this. I am also try to write a
framework for this code-first approach with Axis2-rmi. So I think this would
give me good idea about the senarios I have to think.

Types are the fundamental sharable components in
> service-oriented systems that enable interoperability of diverse
> systems. These types need to be managed and governed. They should be
> properly modeled by data professionals that understand the semantics
> of the data that will be exchanged by applications.
>
> You really don't want a thousand different types representing core
> entities like "customer", "order", and "invoice". You want your
> applications to be exchanging well-defined types that are understood
> by many applications.
>
> If your goal is to simply create a point-to-point connection between
> two applications, then the code-first approach works just fine. And I
> appreciate the value of using a model that supports both SOAP and POX
> interfaces.
>
> But a better approach would be one that starts from corporate approved
> XML Schema data types and allows me to support both SOAP and POX
> interfaces.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> On 8/29/07, Amila Suriarachchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi dennis,
> >
> > nice article. It seems many alternatives being developed (which I belive
> is
> > good) for the code-first approach as well. I think that the java
> document
> > feature you have introduced is a cool feature as well.
> >
> > please bear with me asking these two questions.
> > 1. Does this compatible with java 1.4?
> > 2. I saw this your article
> >  <class name="Order" requireds="@customerId customerName billTo items"
> >
> >  optionals="orderId orderDate shipDate">
> >  <collection-field field="items" item-type="com.sosnoski.infoq.ex1.Item
> "/>
> >  </class>
> > So it is manadatory to declare the item-type for an List?
> >
> >
> > Amila.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/29/07, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well to be fair you brought more than balance!! A whackload of good
> code
> > goes a loooonnnngg way!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/28/07, Dennis Sosnoski < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Glad you enjoyed it, Paul!
> > > >
> > > > There's been so much bashing of the idea of web service development
> > > > starting from code that I thought it was time to bring a bit of
> balance
> > > > to the discussion.
> > > >
> > > >   - Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul Fremantle wrote:
> > > > > Great article! Thanks Dennis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/28/07, *Dennis Sosnoski* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >     My article on "Code First" Web Services Reconsidered has been
> > > > >     published
> > > > >     by InfoQ:
> > http://www.infoq.com/articles/sosnoski-code-first I've also
> > > > >     made some updates to Jibx2Wsdl to fix a few problems found,
> and
> > > > >     with one
> > > > >     more set of enhancements coming up will be making it part of
> the
> > > > >     upcoming JiBX 1.1.6 release. In the meantime you can get it at
> > > > >
> > http://www.sosnoski.com/jibx-wiki/space/axis2-jibx/jibx2wsdl
> > > > >
> > > > >     I'll also mention that I'm going to be visiting Sydney and
> > > > >     Melbourne in
> > > > >     late September, with another trip to the U.S. in October. If
> > > > >     anyone is
> > > > >     interested in training classes or consulting support around
> SOA,
> > > > >     Axis2,
> > > > >     or XML in Java email me directly to find out more about my
> > services.
> > > > >
> > > > >       - Dennis
> > > > >
> > > > >     --
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