thanks Anne for your comments.

re. 2 - : is that a standard? I see, that axis generates a wsdl with a wrapper tag for each operation in the service (in case of a message style implementation). But is that a documented must do? I understand the advantages, but still think this is a little overhead, if I just want to switch from the usual binding to a raw xml implementation. Obviously the wsdl should be pure semantics and not depending upon the style of implementation.
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Anne Thomas Manes schrieb:
Some more guidance on this:

There are a couple of reasons why you might have to use a wrapper element:
1- If you want to send more than one root element in a single SOAP message
2- If you want your service to expose more than one operation

Hope this helps,

Anne

On 9/7/07, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Oliver,

Your WSDL message definition is not valid.

It should be:

<message name="operationA">
   <part name="content" element="xsd:any"/>
</message>

Alternatively, you might want to define a wrapper element for your
message content, in which case you would define the message thus:

<message name="operationA">
   <part name="content" element="tns:operationA" />
</message>

and you would also have to define the operationA element in your
<types> section:

<types>
  <xsd:schema targetNamespace="[tns]">
    <xsd:element name="operationA type="xsd:anyType"/>
  </xsd:schema>
</types>

Anne

On 9/7/07, Oliver Charlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    
Hi y'all,

I am having trouble to get to work a setup that seems to be rare, but
which for me is rather practical:

1) I have a wsdl, that defines a schema for the input of a message, i.e.
I want the content of the soap body to of that schema. This wsdl is used
to communicate with the users of the service - of course.
2) I don't want a Java Binding, because I simply want to take the raw
XML from the body and do something with it (like serializing to filesystem).
3) So I create a "bottom up" service implementation, that uses the
message style Element[] operationA(Element[] elms) signature.
4) I use the wsdlFile tag to serve the original wsdl to the user, when
he asks for it using ...?wsdl on the Service URL

now the problem:
When I do 3), Axis would theoretically create a generated wsdl, that
would define my operation message part as:
<message name="operationA">
    <part element="operationA" type="xsd:anyType"/>
</message>
that means, that in my case the actual payload of the incoming message
would need to be inserted into the operationA-Tag that was defined by
axis at the time of deployment as shown above.
After I do 4), axis still expects that Tag "operationA" to be inside the
soap body. But now I have a service that does not reflect the published
wsdl, which after 4) is the original one defining the payload to be an
instance of the schema inside it - without the operationA-Tag.
That means, that any user trying to access my service, reading the
public wsdl will get an error, because axis expects a different soap
message.

This is a little complicated to explain - but still I hope, that someone
can give me a hint on how to do this the right way.
Again here is what I want to achieve:
- have an initial wsdl
- create a "generic" service implementation handling pure XML, avoiding
generation of XML-JAVA bindings
- publish the initial wsdl instead of the generated one
- make this scenario work...

Thanks for any help
:oliver

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