You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why reimplement the application container capability again when systems like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or servlet engine.
If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server. Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only for testing purposes, not for production runtime. Anne On 9/19/07, Demetris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do > have a good understanding on how > Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that > some researchers are using the wrong > terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people. > These projects are the implementations > of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and > process their communications > with the world. What people should understand is that the service > implementations are not really "contained" > in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for > the feedback Amila. > > Demetris G wrote: > > > > Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web > > services container - yes ? > > If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it > > wrong. > > > > Thanks > > > > Demetris G wrote: > >> > >> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila. > >> > >> Amila Suriarachchi wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not > >>> considered a > >>> stable and reliable enough > >>> standalone web service container > >>> > >>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST > >>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product. > >>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing. > >>> > >>> > >>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It > >>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and > >>> REST message processing capabilities. > >>> > >>> > >>> and it should always be deployed within > >>> other proven > >>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)? > >>> > >>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server > >>> you can use > >>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and > >>> embedded tomcat server. > >>> > >>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also > >>> Axis? Where is this documented? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web > >>> service > >>> > I thought > >>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to > >>> deploy > >>> > preconfigured > >>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less > >>> memory and > >>> > performance > >>> > could be better. > >>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that > >>> should be tested. > >>> > > >>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and > >>> what you may > >>> > suggest. > >>> > Thanks. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many > >>> concorrent > >>> > requests and performs well. > >>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much > >>> tested and > >>> > mainly for testing purposes. > >>> > > >>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat. > >>> > > >>> > Amila. > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > Marko Simic > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 > >>> deployed in > >>> > Tomcat to > >>> > >> standalone version. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > why you want to do this? > >>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http > >>> server in > >>> > production > >>> > > use. > >>> > > > >>> > > Can someone, please, advise me: > >>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s) > >>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were > >>> using > >>> > DataSources > >>> > >> and > >>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question > >>> is: is it > >>> > possible to do > >>> > >> in > >>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other > >>> approach. > >>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access > >>> authentication and > >>> > user list > >>> > >> was > >>> > >> stored in mysql database. > >>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and > >>> authentication > >>> > methods > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Thank you in advance, > >>> > >> Marko Simic > >>> > >> Soft Division > >>> > >> -- > >>> > >> View this message in context: > >>> > >> > >>> > > >>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804 > >>> > >>> > >>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804> > >>> > >>> > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at > >>> Nabble.com <http://Nabble.com> > >>> > < http://Nabble.com>. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > -- > >>> > > Amila Suriarachchi, > >>> > > WSO2 Inc. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > View this message in context: > >>> > > >>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580 > >>> > >>> > < > >>> > >>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580 > >>> > >>> > >>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580>> > >>> > >>> > Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at > >>> Nabble.com <http://Nabble.com> > >>> > < http://Nabble.com>. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Amila Suriarachchi, > >>> > WSO2 Inc. > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- Amila Suriarachchi, > >>> WSO2 Inc. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Amila Suriarachchi, > >>> WSO2 Inc. > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
