Hi,
My apologies to all.  With the high volume of Axis2 emails everyday, I
guess I didn't read each one carefully.  I'll be more careful the next
time I reply to one:)
-Vinh

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From: keith chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [axis2] RE: [ANN] Apache Axis2 1.4 Released


We did around 5 RC's before the actual release. And all RC's were made
public on the mailing list...

Thanks,
Keith.


On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Vinh Nguyen (vinguye2)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        Hi,
        
        What's very interesting to me is that I haven't seen any emails
from the
        Axis2 team notifying developers that 1.4 will be released, or
even vote
        for it to be released.  This would have given
developers/contributors a
        chance to review the state of the latest build, check if there
are any
        critical bugs still outstanding, and then vote if everyone is
fine with
        the release.
        
        I think this should be the normal process for open source
projects (as
        it already is for a few other Apache projects).
        
        I also didn't see emails to the user group about an exact date
planned
        for the 1.4 release.  This would be nice so that the community
can plan
        ahead in case people are waiting for certain bug fixes, and can
find
        workarounds in case they know that 1.4 won't address their bug.
        
        Overall, more communication about planned releases would be
nice:)
        Other than that, keep up the good work!
        -Vinh
        
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Deepal jayasinghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        
        Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:23 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: Re: [axis2] RE: [ANN] Apache Axis2 1.4 Released
        
        
        >  Hi,
        >
        >  Now that 1.4 is released, I still see so many issues logged
on JIRA
        > that  have not even been close to resolved.
        
        I think we all have to agree we can not do a release  with zero
jiras.
        
        When we do a release what we do is we go though the JIRA list
and see
        what are the issues we need to fix for the release and fix them.
I know
        some of the issues might be very critical for you but not for
others.
        However we as developer have to do a general judgment and choose
what we
        want to fix for a give release.
        
        
        I logged a blocker in early April
        >  which hasn't even seen the light of day by anybody.  Surely,
        > blockers,  criticals and majors should get immidiate
attension?
        Yes I agree.
        >
        >  I still have so many problems in getting Axis2 to work as it
should.
        
        > I  have been very relunctant to log any issues because I feel
that
        > they  don't get dealt with in a speedly manner.
        
        Please forgive me for that and one  thing we have to understand
is we
        are doing open source development. No one pays for the
developers so
        most of the developers are doing voluntary works. So once they
have free
        time they will fix your issues. (If there are any JIRA issues
against me
        I will do that )
        
        I've browsed through some of
        >  the issues which were logged a good few months or even under
a year
        > ago  and still they are not resolved.
        >
        >  Unfortunately, Axis2 is the best that I could find out there,
but I
        > just  don't see the level of support I would expect from a
project of
        > such  high magnitude.
        
        It is yes and no answer. When I talked to Axis2 users one of the
        positive feedback I got is the level of support we have.  I know
it is
        good if we can improve that some more , but I can not agree that
user
        does not get support from the mailing list. One of the thing I
do every
        day is going though the mailing list and answer them as much as
I can.
        Sometime I spend more than 2-3 hrs for that.
        
        Not to market any companies, but I know few companies doing
professional
        support for Axis2 , so if you want to get the answer quickly
that would
        be a very good option. :)
        
        >
        >  When deploying a POJO I can't even get Axis2 to auto generate
a 100%
        >  compliant WSDL to the POJO.
        In which level , I know we generate valid WSDL. But for some
edge cases
        we have issues which I am planing to fix soon.
        
        
        These are just the basics, I don't even
        >  want to know how people are struggling with the advanced
features.
        >
        
        :)
        
        >  So I ask, can anybody please enlighten me on how to get
issues
        resolved
        >  in a speedly manner or any support on my existing issues?
This
        mailing
        >  list doesn't seem to be the solution.
        >
        >  Thanks very much
        >  >From a frustrated developer,
        
        May be you can help us to fix those issues , we as developers
more than
        welcome to see your contribution. If you know how to fix an
issue ,
        please fix that and attach a patch to the jira. Then we will
definitely
        review that and apply.
        
        Thank you!
        Deepal
        
        
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