Tom,

I am thinking of considering MVC design pattern for your app.

Chinmoy

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:19 PM, J. Hondius <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> We are doing something like that.
> > The complete backend
> > Multiple frontends
>
> Not 100 classes yet, but we will end up with that number.
> Our approach was to start small, and develop tools en a 'worksystem' from
> there.
>
> We chose to use Axis (in the form of WSO2's WSAS for ease of use)
> and POJO's, no bells and whistles, to keep it as free as possible from any
> dependencies.
>
> The POJO's are developed as regular libreries.
> They can be used for other goals like a destop program.
> They also contain special methods that are to be used for 'publishing' as a
> webservice.
> In the services.xml inside the jar/aar where the pojo's are, only the
> public's are exposed.
>
> We describe the 'to be published' methods first, and work from there.
> I'm sure that this could be done with a UML modeling tool too.
> Some tools (modelmaker?) generate code from the UML.
>
> Designing 100's of classes first would not be my approach though.
> We learned a LOT from the first 3 classes that i could never have thought
> of beforehand.
>
> POJO's do have drawbacks, but independency and reusability were major
> design issues.
> Axis and the POJO's performance was better then expected BTW.
>
> Just 2c
>
>
>
>
> Tom Mayer schreef:
>
> Hi List,
>>
>> I'm at moment in the stage of thinking about how to design a completely
>> new (in the meaning of no codebase available) webservice...
>> And I'm really confused now about the best approach. Already took a look
>> at gsoap, axis2, cxf and few others.
>>
>> Tutorials are only for webservices with one or two operations. When
>> completed my service needs few hundred operations. It will be a kind of
>> customer management application. The webservice should be the complete
>> backend, not any sort of data export.
>> There should be one or two frontends implemented for web and windows
>> completely without business logic. All business logic "exposed" through
>> webservice.
>>
>>
>> Ok, this application will be reflected in some UML diagrams containing
>> about 100 classes. What do you think is the best (in the meaning of
>> efficient and maintainable) way to write such kind of webservice?
>>
>>
>> I already tried the way of constructing a webservice with WSDL first
>> from eclipse WPT. I ended up with one service-skeleton class containing
>> all web methods and really infinite class names
>> (com.organisation.project.myclass) (ok there is my package in it, but is
>> it indispensable to have this complete descriptor before all classnames
>> in the service implementation?)
>> Unimaginable to implement all my business logic in this one file.
>>
>> Is it a better approach to have your application smoothly running with
>> all it's classes and then constructing the webservice like a wrapper,
>> which acts like a application invoking the necessary functions from the
>> complete constructed classes?
>>
>>
>> I'm dreaming of drawing my UML class diagrams, annotate the specific
>> methods of every class that should be exposed in the webservice and
>> getting a nice structured (operation names like classname_functionname)
>> webservice.
>>
>> Seems like I didn't got the "service oriented" vs. "object oriented" yet.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestsions.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>

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