Hi,

I have used Apache SOAP a little bit and have also played around with Axis.

Personally, I like Axis a lot more. It has an elegant architecture, is
tracking ( and influencing ) JAX-RPC standard very closely, and has a very
active user group supporting interoperability efforts. It may not very
stable yet ( afterall, it is only in Alpha stage ), but it will be soon (
with so many dedicated developers and users !! ).

It is no brainer -- go with Axis. By the time the book comes out, Axis would
be ready for prime time.

A couple of points about the attached message:
1. The message says -- " .. Apache SOAP, an  open-source
 implementation of the SOAP v1.1 and SOAP Messages with Attachments"
I have not found this support in Apache SOAP. I may have just missed it but
I doubt.

2. The message says -- "Axis is in Beta and will be tested on the final
version is released; "
THe latest release is labelled Alpha3 and not beta. Also, it gets tested
every day.

/Pankaj.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: McLane, Bryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:07 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: SOAP 2.2 vs. AXIS
> 
> 
> Let us know the gist of the responses
> 
> 
> 1.1.  SOAP Servers
> Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) is a lightweight 
> protocol for exchange
> of information in a decentralized, distributed environment. 
> It is an XML
> based protocol that consists of three parts: an envelope that 
> defines a
> framework for describing what is in a message and how to 
> process it, a set
> of encoding rules for expressing instances of application-defined data
> types, and a convention for representing remote procedure calls and
> responses. SOAP can potentially be used in combination with a 
> variety of
> protocols.  The specification describes the following areas:
>       1.      Message structure - SOAP defines three main elements:
> Envelope, Header and Body.  Applications use this structure 
> to create a
> message for transport.
>       2.      Protocol bindings - A SOAP document can be 
> transported over
> various protocols, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, etc.  The specification 
> defines how SOAP
> messages are bound to protocols.
>       3.      Data encoding - There are many ways to 
> represent data.  A
> Boolean value can be expressed as 'true,' 'yes,' or '1.'  
> SOAP defines how
> primitive data types and how complex or user-defined data 
> types (UDT) are
> serialized for data exchange.
>       4.      Errors handling - Applications can represent 
> errors using
> SOAP FAULT elements. 
> A sample SOAP document is shown below:
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?> 
> 
> <SOAP-ENV:Envelope 
>               
> xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";>
>  
>       <SOAP-ENV:Header>
>               <transid>544-33432-33</transid>
>       </SOAP-ENV:Header>
> 
>       <SOAP-ENV:Body>
>               <getUser xmlns="uri:com-charlesschwab-poc">
>                       <ssn>999-99-9999</ssn> 
>                       <pin>9999</pin> 
>               </getUser>
>       </SOAP-ENV:Body>
> 
> </SOAP-ENV:Envelope>
>               1.1.1.  SOAP Implementations
>                       1.1.1.1.        Apache SOAP 2.2
> Many organizations have implemented the SOAP specification.  
> The Apache
> group, with work donated by IBM, has released Apache SOAP, an 
> open-source
> implementation of the SOAP v1.1 and SOAP Messages with Attachments
> specifications in Java. Apache SOAP can be used as a client library to
> invoke SOAP services available elsewhere or as a server-side tool to
> implement SOAP accessible services. As a client library it 
> provides an API
> for invoking SOAP RPC services as well as an API for sending 
> and receiving
> SOAP messages. As a mechanism to write new RPC accessible services or
> message accessible services, it expects to be hosted by a 
> servlet container
> (such as Apache Tomcat, for example). While the code base can 
> be extended to
> support non-HTTP transports, the current implementation only 
> has limited
> support for non-HTTP transports (specifically, only for SMTP).
> Limitations
>       *       No support for WSDL
>       *       Poor support for layered architectures and/or 
> intermediaries
>       *       Only supports HTTP
>       *       The default RPC provider in Apache SOAP does not provide
> access to any headers in the SOAP envelope 
>       *       Does not implement the 'mustUnderstand' attribute
>       *       The default RPC service provider does not 
> support multiple
> return parameters
>       *       Apache SOAP does not (by default) function without every
> typed value being explicitly typed in the envelope using the xsi:type
> attribute
>       *       Does not use the SOAPAction HTTP header
>       *       Does not fully implement all three versions of 
> XML Schema
>                       1.1.1.2.        Apache Axis (Beta 3)
> Axis is essentially Apache SOAP 3.0. It is a rewrite, 
> designed around a
> streaming model (using SAX internally rather than DOM). The 
> intention is to
> create a more modular, more flexible, and higher-performing SOAP
> implementation (relative to Apache SOAP 2.0). The name "Axis" 
> was chosen
> because, when the project started, the XML Protocol working 
> group had not
> chosen a name for its protocol. The intent was for Axis to 
> support SOAP 1+,
> XML-RPC, and XMLP (whatever it wound up being called), 
> calling it "Apache
> SOAP 3.0" would have missed the mark. Recently, the XML 
> Protocol working
> group decided to retain the SOAP name.
> Limitations
>       *       Axis is in Beta and will be tested on the final 
> version is
> released;  In it's current state, we cannot recommend 
> development with Axis
> as there are too many interoperability issues 
>                       1.1.1.3.        Microsoft SOAP
> Microsoft has included the SOAP toolkit in the Microsoft .NET 
> platform.  The
> implementation automatically generates WSDL documents for Web Services
> exposed on the .NET platform.  Unlike the implementations of Apache,
> Microsoft supports a variety of language bindings including 
> C, C#, Visual
> Basic.NET, and J#.
> Limitations
>       *       Can only generate WSDL using version 2001 of XML Schema
>       *       SOAP Toolkit 2.0 does not support attachments
>       *       .NET requires the SOAPAction header be used to exactly
> identify the operation on which service is being invoked
>       *       Does not properly understand nested namespaces
>       *       Requires all parameters to be named and typed explicitly
>               1.1.2.  References
>       *       http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/
>       *       http://xml.apache.org/soap/
>       *       http://xml.apache.org/axis/
>       *       http://msdn.microsoft.com/soap/
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> Bryan McLane
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> > 
> > ----------
> > From:       Mark Hansen[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       Friday, February 08, 2002 10:55 AM
> > To:         AXIS mail list
> > Subject:    SOAP 2.2 vs. AXIS
> > 
> > Hello AXIS community - 
> > 
> > I'm writing a book on how to use SOAP, Web Services,
> > and Java to implement Enterprise Application
> > Integration (EAI).  
> > 
> > I've been writing all code examples in the book using
> > the Apache SOAP 2.2 implementation.  However, now I
> > see SOAP books coming out that use AXIS rather than
> > the older SOAP 2.2 code.
> > 
> > Question:  Should I use SOAP 2.2 or AXIS for the code
> > examples in my book??
> > 
> > Anyone and everyone with an opinion is invited to
> > respond to this message.  It is really important to me
> > to get a sense of what the SOAP/Java community is
> > doing.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mark Hansen
> > bus tel:  888-360-7285
> > bus fax:  914-723-8671
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> 

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