----- Original Message -----
From: "Vidyanand Murunikkara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: Service initialization




>I am a little ignorant on the Xdoclets side . So never knew anythign
>about the webdoclet part.

embrace and celebrate xdoclets; it is wonderful once you have it working

>and now i understand why JAX-RPC lifecycle is not implemented. I know
>this is a hack and somethign that you all would have thought of .. but
>do you think we could just implement the lifeservicecyle for services
>with scope="application" alone. Since  we know exactly the time to call
>the init() .. and the object is kept thorughout till the servlet
>container is shutdown probably the destroy method can be skipped .. like
>I said a hack .. but might a lot of people who want to get something
>initialized in their service.

yes, that would be the easiest bit of the hack; till now I'd thought the big
need was for session cleanup which needs real session listeners or a
housekeeping thread.

>ps: btw .. ur ppt on the "when webservices go bad" was a gr8 read :-).

thanks -there is an update on sellsbrothers.com/conference

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