I forgot to mention...

Other examples of Web services are infrastructure-level services such as
UDDI, a SAML-based single sign-on service, a SAML-based
entitlement/authorization service, a digital signature service (see OASIS
DSS), an encryption key management service (see W3C XKMS), a billing
service, a provisioning service, etc., etc.

Anne

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: examples
>
>
> I had asked, in november, about example web-services
> that are available publicly. Where do web-services
> stand today? I would also like to from various users
> who are on this mailing list, what kind of services
> have you created and how you publicized them?
>
> thanks.
> ~rf
>
> --- Dennis Sosnoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Most of the publicly available web services *are*
> > toys. Despite the
> > ".NET vision" of "The Road Ahead" there doesn't
> > appear to be much of a
> > *general* business case for web services as revenue
> > generators.
> >
> > Google and Amazon are exceptions that demonstrate
> > the rule. In Google's
> > case they're making a limited usage form of their
> > service available for
> > free, with the expectation that if people come up
> > with good applications
> > they'll either charge for usage or gain revenue some
> > other way - it's
> > under their control, since the beta license keys are
> > only authorized for
> > 1000 requests per day. In Amazon's case, they want
> > as many people as
> > possible to buy from them, and if making their
> > catalog and ordering
> > system available through a web service adds a tiny
> > fraction of a percent
> > to their sales they'll have more than justified the
> > effort.
> >
> > The same types of benefits could apply to other
> > major commercial
> > operations - the airlines, for instance, should have
> > web services
> > interfaces in place, as should Amazon's competitors
> > in the book biz,
> > major office supplies vendors, stock brokers, etc. -
> > these all have more
> > to gain from additional business than from
> > restricting users to
> > browsers. The credit card processing business would
> > be another great
> > market for web services, except that they always
> > seem to be using
> > technology that's a minimum of 10 years out of date
> > (my apologies to any
> > readers from that industry - I'm baffled and
> > frustrated that there's
> > still a minimum merchant charge of about $0.40 /
> > transaction in these
> > days of cheap bandwidth and processing).
> >
> > Where web services are increasingly important to a
> > much broader range of
> > companies is for linking B2B applications, including
> > B2B applications
> > within a company. SOAP is basically just a fluffier
> > - and somewhat more
> > limited - version of CORBA, after all. These types
> > of services are
> > generally not public, though.
> >
> >   - Dennis
> >
> > Dennis M. Sosnoski
> > Enterprise Java, XML, and Web Services Support
> > http://www.sosnoski.com
> >
> > RXZ JLo wrote:
> >
> > >they are all toy services at xmethods and
> > salcentral.
> > >I am looking for more like Google and Amazon.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >rf.
> > >
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