Hi Jim,

Here is the issues I logged on Nov 11, 2003, with Mindreef Support team
(Please take alook at the forwarded e-mail). The only reply I got so far
from MindReef Support Team is, they will look into the issue. You can
check the issues log yourself, if Mindreef maintains the customer
issues. I never heard anything from them afterwards (more than three
months now). This again shows how good their customer support is?

Please check the Mindreef customer issues log. You will find all the
information I sent to them, including WSDL file. Test with that WSDL and
let me know if it works. If it works with our WSDL then only I'll be
interested in trying the new 3.0 version, else I won't be interested in
spending my cycles.

Hope this makes very clear that my comments are VERY true.  Please do
let me know if you hear anything about the issue I logged from your
customer support.

Best regards,

HPP/eProfile QA Lead. HP

For those who are interested in Web Services testing:
-----------------------------------------------------
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for testing any types of web services, and I'm great fan of this tool.
It supports all types of web services, and all simple and complex types
and it very usable than any other tool in the market I ever
used/evaluated. It automatically generates the SOAP requests and invokes
the intended web services. It can perform functional, regression and
load testing of web services. Result analysis and status reporting is
just wonderful.  I'll highly recommend this tool for testing web
services, saves lots of time and efforts in testing web services. For
more information visit http://www.optimyz.com. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Wagh, Shrikant 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:09 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: Wagh, Shrikant
Subject: Unable to invoke the web services using SOAPscope tool.

Hi SOAPscope Support team,
 
I have been evaluating the SOAPscope tool to test our web services and
WSDL file. I'm unable to invoke our web services using SOAPscope tool.
Please find the attached WSDL file for your reference. When I analyzed
this WSDL file, it reported no errors and the WSDL is found to be
correct. In "Service View" screen it does display the correct operation
signatures. I also attached the request generated by SOAPscope and the
received error message when I tried to invoke the web service, at the
end of this email.
 
The same WSDL when tested with other testing tools like
WebServiceTester, it works fine.
 
The web services described in WSDL file are document-literal and take
the XML document as input argument and returns the XML document. I found
that the SOAP request <body> has the wrapper element
<eprofile:eCreateProfile>. 
May I know the reason WHY the XML document passed as input argument is
wrapped in <eprofile:eCreateProfile> element.
 
If the input is "null" then the <body part of the request should be
   <soap:Body>
   </soap:Body>
 
and NOT
 
   <soap:Body>
      <eprofile:createProfile/>
   </soap:Body>
 
If the input is <doc><val>val1</val></doc> then the <body part of the
request should be
   <soap:Body>
        <doc><val>val1</val></doc>
   </soap:Body>
 
and NOT
 
   <soap:Body>
        <eprofile:createProfile>
                <doc><val>val1</val></doc>
        </eprofile:createProfile>
   </soap:Body>
 
I also noticed that the request generated by Axis Client does not have
the wrapper element as it is in the request generated by SOAPscope.
 
I'll highly appreciate your response to this email.
 
Best regards,
Shrikant Wagh
HPP/eProfile QA Lead
Hewlett Packard Company.
 
Request generated by SOAPscope
------------------------------
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<soap:Envelope
   xmlns:eprofile="http://eprofile.globalops.hp.com/eProfileService";
   xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/";
xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema";>
   <soap:Header>
      <eprofile:eProfileHeader>
         <ApplicationID>111</ApplicationID>
         <LanguageCode>111</LanguageCode>
         <HPPID>111</HPPID>
         <SiteMinderSID>111</SiteMinderSID>
         <TemplateID>111</TemplateID>
      </eprofile:eProfileHeader>
   </soap:Header>
   <soap:Body>
      <eprofile:createProfile/>
   </soap:Body>
</soap:Envelope>
 
 
Response
---------------
Malformed XML: 
Line: 4, Column: 1 in the original XML stream.
XML document structures must start and end within the same entity.


The following has been reformatted for readability and may not match the
original content.
<HTML>
   <HEAD>
      <TITLE>Redirection</TITLE>
   </HEAD>
   <BODY>
      <H1>Redirect</H1>
   </BODY>


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Axis and Basic Profile 1.0a

Sorry to take up bandwidth with this somewhat commercial message but I'd

just like to make sure the archive is correct.

Wagh, Shrikant wrote:

> Hello Tony,
> 
> If you are interested in validating your WSDL and checking it for WS-I
> Basic profile compliance, then WS-I test tool is really good. 
> I'll prefer that than MindReef SOAPscope. SOAPscope does not generate
> the compliance report but WSI tool does generate a detailed HTML
report
> which is very useful.

Not true.  SOAPscope 3.0 includes integration with the WS-I test tools. 
  We make it very easy to invoke the actual WS-I tools themselves and 
you get the native detailed WS-I report as output.  Its the easiest way 
to run the WS-I tools.


> I found that SOAPscope can be a good tool for debugging WSDL, but it
not
> a good testing tool. It does not support doc-lit services where the
> in/out parameter types are defined in the imported XSD, It fails to
> generate the request and hence fails to invoke the intended service. I
> evaluated SOAPscope 2.0 tool for our testing, but did not serve our
> purpose. Does not support parameterization, reporting etc. It has very
> very primitive testing functionalities.

Hey cool - but SOAPscope Invoke absolutely works with arbitrary rpc/enc,

doc/lit and even rpc/lit services.  Also we support wsdl:imports and 
schema:imports/includes.  We have plenty of customers with *very* large 
WSDL document trees using Invoke today.

I'd encourage you to try SOAPscope 3.0 again[1].  There is a free eval 
available.


[1] - http://www.mindreef.com/


Kind regards,

Jim Murphy
Mindreef, Inc.


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