Hi Bill,

I found the WebServiceTester from Optimyz Software is great Web Services
Testing Tool. I used their 2.1 version at HP and it works really well
for our services. It is the "OUT OF BOX" tool I ever encountered. No
programming at all. Not even a single line of scripts. You can specify
the test data once and reuse that in subsequent test runs. You can
export/import the XML files. You can do reference data comparison and
actual data comparison. Reporting is really sleek, very informative,
hand links to each request and response. Provides TTFB, TTLB, Total
response time, response size for each invocation. Load test feature is
very well thought of. Provides fail-safe, fault tolerant and dynamically
scalable load testing. Usability is big PLUS of this tool.

Yesterday, I saw their new WebServiceTester 3.0ea release at 2004 Web
Services Conference in New York. In WebServiceTester 3.0ea they support
all security features like HTTP authentication, SOAP authentication, XML
signature(partial/complete), XML encryption(partial/complete), testing
the Web Services workflow specified using BPEL.
WebServiceTester is the only tool I saw in the 2004 Web Services
Conference in New York, which support web services workflow testing. All
you need is your BPEL file to describe the workflow and it does
everything for you. It's really neat.

There pricing is also very competitive. For $399 per year/per user
subscription or $199 per user/per quarter subscription, with free
upgrades and services.  

I like there pricing model too. With web services standards changing so
fast, any testing tool will need to be updated every SIX months max. I
would not like to pay 4K or 5K for tool and get stuck with lemon and
shell money every 6 months for upgrades, even if someone offers 50%
discount for upgrade.

I would recommend you to take a shot at this one, and see how it works
out for you. For more information send mail to their support -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck with your WS testing.

Shrikant Wagh
QA Lead, HPP/eProfile Team, HP

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-----Original Message-----
From: Heitzeg, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Web Services testing

Thanks, I think what you're doing makes sense.  My customer is
specifically interested in using an off-the-shelf tool, so I would have
to work at convincing them to go the JMeter approach.  I proposed this,
but an in-house programmer had bad experience with JMeter, so I think
I'm out of luck until he retires.

thanks again though.

-----Original Message-----
From: I-Sampige, Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 7:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Web Services testing


First of all, are you looking for a free open source one or are you
willing to spend money. If you are looking for an open source tool then
here you go -

I am using Jmeter for functional as well as load testing. Since I had
special requirements like attaching files to SOAP messsage directly; I
extended  Jmeter classes (relatively simple). I am handing this off to
the tester who needs to just use a GUI (comes in JMeter) to input
different paramaters like the file to be attached etc. and build test
cases. The actual test can then be run in non GUI mode with result being
output to files which can then be analyzed later. You can contact me if
you need further details.


Thanks
srinivas

-----Original Message-----
From: Heitzeg, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Web Services testing


Hello,

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good testing tool.  I'm looking
for a testing tool that a QA person can run, not a programmer.

Bill Heitzeg

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