Business Process Execution Language is a higher level Web Services technology. It describes how to glue together a series of web services message exchanges. In this sense, since you can implement web services in any language on any platform, its a higher level technology than Java, C++, .NET.

Also I'd consider looking at WS-Eventing. Its sounds like that may be what you're after. Not sure where the apache community is on this but it may give you some ideas if you had to implement this stuff yourself.

WS-Eventing
IBM, BEA, Computer Associates, Microsoft, Sun Microsystems, TIBCO
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/specification/ws-eventing/

WS-Eventing for Dummies Blog post - no offense intended :)
http://blogs.msdn.com/bwill/archive/2004/02/10/70964.aspx

Regards

Jim Murphy
Mindreef, Inc.



Suzy Fynes wrote:

I never used BPEL before, is it compatible with java or is it something
works on its own?

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Beland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2004 13:37
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Automating web service




Wouldn't it be easier with BPEL?
Some kind of suscribe/publish message queue?

ActiveBPEL is a free open source BPEL orchestrator which uses axis to
produce their web services. It would not be too hard to adapt your
current
web services with it.

Daniel



The client probably needs to register once - otherwise how would the
service know where to send the stuff? So, a probable solution can be:

1. The client registers once and provides some means (some URI) where
the server will send its stuff - shouldn't be a synchronous procedure

-

the server will either send something via ftp/gridFTP/SMTP etc...if

you

make this synchronous, it means the client will also have to be
running...

2. The server continues to run, and sends the object or whatever at
specific times - can be implemented using timers/counters...

Seems do-able...

Cheers
Arijit


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        From: Suzy Fynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: 28 October 2004 12:11
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: RE: Automating web service


Kinda of but an object would be sent to the client server.

        Is it do-able?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Arijit Mukherjee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Sent: 28 October 2004 12:10
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: RE: Automating web service

        Sounds like a notification service...

        Cheers
        Arijit


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                From: Suzy Fynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Sent: 28 October 2004 12:08
                To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Subject: Automating web service


Hi,

                Can anyone tell me if its possible to automate an axis
web service i.e. as oppose to a client making a request when they want
information that the service sends out the information daily

                Thanks
                Suzy





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